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1080ti vs 2080

Buy it based on the hope devs start taking advantage of raytracing and tensor cores? Yea sure mate :) look how long it's taking them to take advantage of the low level APIs they have been asking for. DX12 still is taking its sweet time to gain traction.
It's a fair premium to pay to encourage the industry to move on. Basically footing the bill just to help the gaming industry to adopt raytracing.
1080ti all the way more like.

I think if you're buying new the 2080's the better choice as it will get better support going forward, We've seen it with Kepler and Maxwell so Pascal won't be any different, Ray tracings got nothing to do with it though by the time RT is being supported Turing will likely be a couple of generations old plus it's not strong enough to run RT properly anyway.
 
I think if you're buying new the 2080's the better choice as it will get better support going forward, We've seen it with Kepler and Maxwell so Pascal won't be any different, Ray tracings got nothing to do with it though by the time RT is being supported Turing will likely be a couple of generations old plus it's not strong enough to run RT properly anyway.

we shouldn't really reward that kind of behaviour ?? but your right, last gen and below is forgotten rather quickly by nvidia.
 
we shouldn't really reward that kind of behaviour ?? but your right, last gen and below is forgotten rather quickly by nvidia.

It is, I was just posting in a different thread how the 980ti matched a 1070 when Pascal released and how today it's often behind by as much as ten frames in new games, As you said Nvidia will soon forget to maximise the performance they can get out of Pascal so it's always better to buy the latest tech when there's a choice.
 
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It is, I was just posting how the 980ti matched a 1070 when Pascal released but now it's often a chunk behind in new games in a different thread, like you said Nvidia will soon forget to maximise the performance they can get out of Pascal so it's always better to buy the latest tech.

The 980ti is even falling behind the rx480 in some things. A card that was a 1060 equivalent at launch...

Pretty sure they are doing it on purpose. They are in-directly nerfing old cards by not properly support them anymore in driver updates.
 
The 980ti is even falling behind the rx480 in some things. A card that was a 1060 equivalent at launch...

Pretty sure they are doing it on purpose. They are in-directly nerfing old cards by not properly support them anymore in driver updates.

Doing that does make sense from a business standpoint. In the past it's looked like Nvidia had purposely reduced the performance of older cards with newer drivers, I only remember seeing it happen once & the time they took a lot of flak for it so it got fixed, Now it looks like (to me) Nvidia ignore new game releases when it comes to fine tuning to maximise performance on the older architectures,
Are there any games other than Forza Horizon 4 where the 980ti drops so much performance? I was thinking that one was an anomaly where Maxwell really sucks due to it's poor DX12 performance when compared to Nvidia's newer architecture & AMD's GCN. It's definitely a sign of things to come,
I wonder how it will be when AMD move away from GCN, There's no reason to think they'll do any better than Nvidia as it does make sense from a business standpoint.
 
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