1080ti vs 2080

[3YOB]

It's about the implementation of raytracing not the performance. Anyone who thinks the performance of the 2080 will get better in raytracing over time must be out their mind if you ask me. It can handle 1 ray per pixel! 1... It's not even enough to do anything to the graphics.
I say get the 1080ti and wait until better ray trace cards are out. Maybe when the raytracing performance is around 100-1000x better we can think about buying one for that.

No one is saying the existing cores will magically increase, but the implementation will get better over time and 2080 will be supported for a long time to come. Historically, these kinds of paradigm shifts have left other cards practically worthless.

 

[spikerules]

Both the same ..one nearly 200 quid cheaper...4K is 2080ti territory...

Even a 2080ti isn’t 4k 60 in every game

 

[3YOB]

The cost just isn't worth it at all if you already have a top end GPU.

This I agree with. But for someone who is about to buy a new card from 2 gens ago or more, it's wiser to get the 20 series.

 

[DarrenM343]

2080 agree .
Half of those who disagree are 1080 Ti owners, the other half, AMD GPU's .
Only kidding !
Seriously depends on what people want and the pricing, ie, the gap is not always £200. I'm not going to repeat myself yet again about the advantages of the 2080 but unless getting a real bargain I'd just go with the latest tech - with all the extra R&D included and better potential moving forward.

 

[ljt]

2080 vs. 1080Ti is an enthusiast-level discussion. Shoo away.

No I think I'll stay with the discussion thanks. I own a 1080Ti, but you totally missed my point.

The point I was trying to make was that if you want wide adoption of a technology, you don't ring fence it behind a £550+ entrance fee.

For ray tracing to take off big, and replace todays rasterization, you need to get it to the bulk of gamers for developers to devote any real time and effort into making it something other than a token gesture in the settings menu.

The bulk of gamers don't spend £500+ on a GPU, so until RT capable cards reach the price range of the gamer masses (£100-£250), it will be just a gimmick.

 

[X-Mikuru_Beam-X]

"Hopes of support" right... do you think the leader in GPU technology would build specialized HW without legal obligations in place with devs to make games that take advantage of it? Yeah sure, Nvidia has no idea what they are doing. It's not like 11 upcoming games have already committed to RT, and some more for DLSS, and a few more for programmable shaders.

Nice false equivalence fallacy to DirectX. Nothing about DX12 is comparable to RT and DLSS. CPU draw call optimization? Really can't tell if you're just trolling at this point.

I paid $90 more for a 2080FE over a 1080Ti. Wow what a stretch!

"Help the industry" lol now I know you're trolling. The industry has absolutely already moved on. 1080Ti no longer in production. It's over.

Jensen is that you?

OP watch this and decided afterwards

 

[McGraw]

2080 vs. 1080Ti is an enthusiast-level discussion. Shoo away.

Hard to be enthusiastic about a rip off gen of cards that is dragging the “enthusiast” level of gaming to the point where people will just go console.

I’m a pc gaming enthusiast and I don’t want Nvidia making pc gaming purely a rich people’s thing.

 

[easyrider]

Even a 2080ti isn’t 4k 60 in every game

Well yeah and with RT it’s not even a 1080/60 card

 

[r7slayer]

I love how y'all think when some one posts they are anti nvidia or pro AMD. How this forum amuses me. I own a zotac 1080ti under water and what i said stands. RT is just a gimmick and its not even widley supported and wont even be there when the 2xxx series comes to the end of its life. I used Dx12 as an example because devs have been asking for alternatives to DX11. And loads of cards supports DX12 now and vulkan for that matter.
Mid range is where majority of PC gamers are and you wont see RT on anything mid range or less because of the raw processing demand. So once again it wont get any hard pressed adoption for a minute amount of PC gamers of late. So i'm not trolling im just being a realist but calling some one a troll for making a statement is laughable. Get a grip please.

 

[r7slayer]

This I agree with. But for someone who is about to buy a new card from 2 gens ago or more, it's wiser to get the 20 series.

Wiser to pay more for the same performance? Sure.

 

[DarrenM343]

Wiser to pay more for the same performance? Sure.

It's not just about performance though is it? There's a complete package to consider, including considering where NV will put future R&D for the products. I'm surprised so many are just simply FPS whores .
No regrets buying a 2080 and playing Wolfenstein 2 atm according to some review the 2080 is some 40% faster like for like(Ti FE to 2080 FE). Having said that the old 1070 Ti was tearing through it no problem anyway

 

[X-Mikuru_Beam-X]

It's not just about performance though is it? There's a complete package to consider. I'm surprised so many are just FPS whores

A complete package of what though? The 2080ti isn’t even a 1080/60 card with Ray Tracing on, and as for DLSS...that’s just upscaling

 

[DarrenM343]

A complete package of what though? The 2080ti isn’t even a 1080/60 with Ray Tracing on, and as for DLSS...that’s just upscaling

Even if your speculation is right, and I don't see any RT games on the shelves yet, do you? At least 2080 and Ti owners can actually experience it ....part of the package. So what if we can make a cup of tea between frame draws..... .
Driver development likely to favour latest gen. Effiecency too although in fairness the "early" reviews put the 1080 Ti idle consumption lower than the 2080 although NV has apparently since fixed this (more reviews please?)
Problem I have with all this FPS talk is that we're talking about reviews done with early drivers anyway. Mentioned elsewhere is that 1070 has pulled well ahead of the 980 Ti that it was on par with on release.
I understand if there's a big price difference but the best option is not to buy old tech IMO. If you look at the big picture, compare the entire packages, including future software support and even energy consumption, the old gen cards don't make sense unless real bargains.
Any buyer needs to consider the above and what £70- £130 means to them. That's all it takes (ie, £629 current Ti prices to £749 for 2080 FE or £70 to buy the cheapest 2080).

if someone doesn't mind buying a used 1080 Ti for say £400 with the aim of buying now and then upgrading when RT is done even better, then fine too. Thing to watch is what people are comparing and the price difference between them and whether it's worth it to them

 

[r7slayer]

It's not just about performance though is it? There's a complete package to consider, including considering where NV will put future R&D for the products. I'm surprised so many are just simply FPS whores .
No regrets buying a 2080 and playing Wolfenstein 2 atm according to some review the 2080 is some 40% faster like for like(Ti FE to 2080 FE). Having said that the old 1070 Ti was tearing through it no problem anyway

yes... yes it is just performance though. The whole enthusiast side of these forums is about performance. Most of us overclock for more performance over what the standard hardware gives you. People used to xfire and SLI for more performance. Not because it gave you extra features. (They don't as much now because of the support) Since when did it stop being about just performance? When they started adding RGB? For me when it comes to PC hardware its about performance for what ever money/budget i have. So what i said again stands.

 

[pooley]

[QUOTE="DarrenM343, post: 32185453, member: 73256"]It's not just about performance though is it? There's a complete package to consider, including considering where NV will put future R&D for the products. I'm surprised so many are just simply FPS whores .
No regrets buying a 2080 and playing Wolfenstein 2 atm according to some review the 2080 is some 40% faster like for like(Ti FE to 2080 FE). Having said that the old 1070 Ti was tearing through it no problem anyway [/QUOTE]

yes it is, performance rules the roost
99% of pc gamers are imo.. who the hell wants to play games at 30 fps lolz

 

[tommybhoy]

Even if your speculation is right, and I don't see any RT games on the shelves yet, do you? At least 2080 and Ti owners can actually experience it ....part of the package. So what if we can make a cup of tea between frame draws..... .
Driver development likely to favour latest gen. Effiecency too although in fairness the "early" reviews put the 1080 Ti idle consumption lower than the 2080 although NV has apparently since fixed this (more reviews please?)
Problem I have with all this FPS talk is that we're talking about reviews done with early drivers anyway. Mentioned elsewhere is that 1070 has pulled well ahead of the 980 Ti that it was on par with on release.
I understand if there's a big price difference but the best option is not to buy old tech IMO. If you look at the big picture, compare the entire packages, including future software support and even energy consumption, the old gen cards don't make sense unless real bargains.
Any buyer needs to consider the above and what £70- £130 means to them. That's all it takes (ie, £629 current Ti prices to £749 for 2080 FE or £70 to buy the cheapest 2080).

if someone doesn't mind buying a used 1080 Ti for say £400 with the aim of buying now and then upgrading when RT is done even better, then fine too. Thing to watch is what people are comparing and the price difference between them and whether it's worth it to them

Current 1080ti is £579 cheapest, 1080 is £689 £709 when gibbo plugs the cheap n nasty version or £729 most of the time, that's £130 difference and because this series is co-existing with Pascal, they can't drop/deprioritise Pascal support like they normally would.

RTX uptake is going nowhere for reasons posted above, in the grand scheme of things 99%+ of the PC gaming community has stuck the middle finger up to NV, they've burst the willingness to pay ceiling echoed by 1080 stock increasing on shelves.

And no, holding stock back to artificially create a market in a tiny buying sector with the Ti, it's nothing new.

 

[X-Mikuru_Beam-X]

RTX uptake is going nowhere for reasons posted above, in the grand scheme of things 99%+ of the PC gaming community has stuck the middle finger up to NV, they've burst the willingness to pay ceiling echoed by 1080 stock increasing on shelves.

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It is very good the pc enthusiast community is sending a clear message to Nvidia, especially since the price / perf ratio has gone backwards!

 

[Lokken86]

Current 1080ti is £579 cheapest, 1080 is £689 £709 when gibbo plugs the cheap n nasty version or £729 most of the time, that's £130 difference and because this series is co-existing with Pascal, they can't drop/deprioritise Pascal support like they normally would.

The 1080TI is back to 620 now

 

[tommybhoy]

The 1080TI is back to 620 now

Here yes but other places have them and don't increase stock price as quick as here does.

 

[tommybhoy]

It is very good the pc enthusiast community is sending a clear message to Nvidia, especially since the price / perf ratio has gone backwards!

About time, thought it was never going to happen but at least it has now, Iv'e never seen stock on shelves like this before on/immediately after launch from Nv-never.