10900K upgrade?

[Speed]

Doesn't make a lot of sense to go 14th Gen Intel now, you are putting yourself on a dead socket with no real upgrade path.

So another vote for the 7800X3D. Or if you didn't want to spend that much you could get a 7700X which has close to 5800X3D performance but plenty of upgrade options in the future: ie you could pickup a 9000 series X3D CPU when they drop etc.

 

[Neil79]

Bit of an old bump, but I'm getting that upgrade itch again and wanted to wait until now, 10900k

So anyone willing to give me a decent idea for..

CPU,COOLER,MBOARD and RAM?

Around £800ish or less !

Cheers!

 

[Tetras]

Isn't your Noctua compatible with AM5 or 1700?

AMD:

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core 5.00GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DT-AM) = £329.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen - Space Marine & Unknown 9 Awakening Games Bundle (SKU: DIG-AMD-02908) = £0.00
• 1 x Asus TUF Gaming X670E-Plus WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-6J9-AS) = £259.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance EXPO 64GB (2X32GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C40 5600MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (CMK64GX5M2B5600Z40) (SKU: MY-4DL-CS) = £169.99
• 1 x Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: COO-TLR-02665) = £29.99

Total: £789.96 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

The TUF X670E-Plus has PCI-E 5.0 graphics and 4x M.2 slots, but if you don't care about that there are cheaper options.

Intel:

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Intel Core i9-12900K 3.20GHz (Alder Lake) Socket LGA1700 Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-6A1-IN) = £278.99
• 1 x Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite X WIFI7 (LGA 1700) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-GIG-01687) = £245.00
• 1 x Kingston FURY Beast 64GB (2x32GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C40 5600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KF556C40BBK2-64) (SKU: MY-29W-KS) = £158.99
• 1 x Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE Dual Tower CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: COO-TLR-02723) = £36.94

Total: £727.91 (includes delivery: £7.99)​

The Z790 Aorus Elite non-X is cheaper, but this one performed really well in HUB's roundup and I think has been upgraded to 8-layers.

The Intel build is avoiding 13th-14th gen CPUs because of the reported issues.

Note that the 12700KF is £100 cheaper and only loses 4 E-Cores, but I thought you'd want them to push up the multicore performance, since the 10900K is a 10 core CPU.

 

[Neil79]

Isn't your Noctua compatible with AM5 or 1700?

Not sure!

Thanks for the great reply, very informative

 

[adamsleath]

there are noctua kits for that cooler (i have it myself the d15) for newer sockets.
they are cheap as chips. (sometimes free if you can snag it) but the one i'm seeing here in aus. is 9$ AUD.
i have 2 d15's for 2 pc's here. no reason for me to change it. perfectly fine hunk of metal with good fans.
Thermalright have very cheaply priced coolers which are really good performance, but ive already got coolers so...

 

[DarrenM343]

If you have the original receipt for the Noctua cooler and a receipt for a newer motherboard I believe Noctua will ship the required mounting parts required for compatibility. One of the often overlooked benefits to buying a Noctua. NH-D15's support AM5 but depends I think when it was bought (if has the AM4 kit then yes it does I believe). For 1700 need to ask for a mounting kit.

 

[Alexrose1uk]

The above from Tetras look great to me, although if you're going AMD, I'd recommend trying to spend a little more for a 6000 CL30 memory kit instead. Corsair Dominator Platinum 64GB 32GB x2 kit for example (my wife has this and it works perfectly with her 7800X3D at EXPO).
For raw gaming the 7800X3D is currently the king, the 12900K system is kinda end of life due to the 13th/14th gen Intel issues, but cheaper and a bit more multicore performance

If you wanted Space Marine 2, the current bundle which comes with that from AMD also adds decent value as the game is not cheap to preorder, and suspect will be one of the hot games for a few months at least on release.

If you decide you want a better cooler/AIO, I'd heartily recommend the Artic Freezers also. They're often way cheaper than many others, whilst having some of the best performance. They are thickbois though.

For reference on how much better these new architectures are however, I used to have a 10700k, not that dissimilar for gaming from your 10900K. I swapped to a 12400, but with one of the overclocking motherboards and clocked it up to 5GHz all core (25% OC) with a mid tier cooler. In hindsight I should have got a decent AIO rather than the AK500 I got on offer, as much as its a decent enough air cooler, and quiet, I hit thermal limits trying to go higher, I suspect my chip could hit another few hundred MHz easily, with the right voltage and cooling solution.
However, this overclocked 12400, despite only having 6 cores, beat my 10700k handily in single thread, and beat it slightly in multithread, despite the 6 vs 8 core deficit, and that's despite me having to run my memory kit at around 3333MHz due to limitations on RAM with the i5.

Most of my games have substantially better minimums now, I'm just running out of headroom in some newer titles and want to upgrade again haha

My wife has a 7800X3D, and it beats the living snot out of this overclocked 12400, especially in combination with her newer GPU

I will probably go 9800X3D if they turn out to be decent or MAYBE Intel Arrowlake when it comes out, to ensure I have some future platform lifespan, but I'm wary of Intel now as anything after 12th gen have some serious latent issues right now, which Intel have been sandbagging for a while, and it's hit confidence for sure.

 

[Neil79]

I will probably go 9800X3D if they turn out to be decent or MAYBE Intel Arrowlake when it comes out, to ensure I have some future platform lifespan, but I'm wary of Intel now as anything after 12th gen have some serious latent issues right now, which Intel have been sandbagging for a while, and it's hit confidence for sure.

Brilliant thank you!

I was going to order today, but I'm not in most of Sunday so will have to wait till next week. Not sure how long these deals will last