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Yep, Nissan reliability took a nosedive.

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Quite a few Honda's within the price range but most are the 1.0l 3 cylinder - the wet belt and all associated issues really put me off this. A terrible design, similar to the 1.0l EcoBoost engines which inevitably go bang!
 
Molemanmus said:
Quite a few Honda's within the price range but most are the 1.0l 3 cylinder - the wet belt and all associated issues really put me off this. A terrible design, similar to the 1.0l EcoBoost engines which inevitably go bang!
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But do the Honda engines go bang? Have you looked into it? Can't say I know offhand, but this is Japanese engineering we're talking about.
 
Nasher said:
I don't think Renault are to blame. Most of the Renaults aren't too bad. There are loads of old ones still going and they don't even seem to rust badly. It's Nissan which went off a cliff with their build quality.
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Having worked for both companies, I strongly disagree haha, you should see the graveyard of Trafic engine's all with the 3rd injector stuck in the head, I remember fondly coming into work one day to find a master tech stood ontop of an engine which was on the hoist, smacking the **** out of it with a rubber mallet, trying to get it to release that injector.
They also tend to have very weak gearboxes on things that really shouldn't, i.e. the sport clio's for example. Even on stock power/low mileage.
 
radderfire said:
But do the Honda engines go bang? Have you looked into it? Can't say I know offhand, but this is Japanese engineering we're talking about.
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Yep, love Honda (the old school stuff) but the gearboxes always destroy 3rd/4th synchro even on things like the Type R's, the stock K20/K24's will happily go bang on standard power, along with using rubbish like the weak type on timing chain and silly plastic guides, I could list countless things and have had the pleasure of working for Honda as well when the FK2 came out, the irony is though, although they like to go bang (which the internet doesn't like to admit to when it's stock power) they also can and do take ridiculous power when supercharged/turboed, even a home built modified setup, as does the old D/B/F/H series, and the boxes also can take a fair bit of power...

The problem is unless you get a nice JDM import only model direct from Japan like a DC5R Integra, it'll 90% likely have been owned by a chav and ran on too low of an octane fuel and go bang/have been poorly maintained, as with RX7's...

I grew up with the garage that built the fastest FD3S in europe for 6 years running (which he daily drove 30+ miles each way to work a day) and it was only a 13B twin rotor and was a monster, yet the internet will tell you rotaries aren't reliable :rolleyes:

The problem with Honda's over here was (before it closed) that they'd have been made poorly by Rover technicans in Swindon, hence why those models are not as strong engine/box wise/quality control as you get from a straight from Japan fresh import, once it's been fiddled with/neglected over here in the wrong hands, it becomes a nightmare.

When the EP3 CTR came out I remember them all being kained to death bouncing off the limiter from cold by chavs and finance care free owners, and a performance vtec engine LOVES to drink oil, so most were kained about with way less oil in them everytime on top of that, and never had it checked and thus quickly doing either perminant damage or chipping away at the future lifespan.

You also in the trade, will come across loads of really stupid things that grenade the lifespan of engines, like for example the GT86/BRZ being spec'ed with the wrong oil from factory, and people sticking to that and refusing to listen, along with them not using a gasket on the sump and instead far too much sealant, which then ends up blocking the oil strainer/pick up pipes and you guessed it BANG! Or leads to them going bang in the future. Such a shame.

Out of the 4 performance Honda's I've owned, only 1 hasn't had a gearbox issue, but I didn't own it long enough, however it did have one of the tougher boxes tbf, so probably would have been fine/lasted a lot longer...

The trouble is, now a days, everything ISN'T built to last. Instead it's designed to break/fail sooner/be traded in for peanuts whilst someone like me out the back swaps in a new engine/box and puts it back on the forecourt for silly money once you've left...

Then you have the nonsense the VAG group does using custom tooling to assemble their cars, i.e. mechanics have to constantly buy more tools to work on them! And they deliberately package stuff so it is a nightmare to work on, for example if you look at how you replace a radiator on a golf vs a civic, it will blow your mind the amount of stuff that has to be removed to access it on the golf vs the honda, it is beyond ridiculous and done on purpose so you get bent over at a main Stealer...

I could go on but you get the idea.

So far I have worked for BMW/Honda/JLR/Nissan-Renault and done pretty much all the common commercial vehicles, along with transporting brand new cars to and from clients and to auction etc etc etc... I've yet to find anything new that I'd consider would last nor be maintainable the same way as a 60-90's car.

Pair that with idiots that think it's acceptable to change their oil at 10-20k miles because the book or main Stealer tells you to (so it goes bang and they can sell you another car...) it's no wonder stuff now is rubbish, then pair that with people driving around in too low of a gear so it pops and bangs and revving the nuts off it, RIP DCT boxes of anything sporty in the future!
And thus is why I prefer maintaining classic cars with souls to them that aren't the size of yachts and have this thing called 'handling' and 'feedback' and don't weigh as much as a planet nor look pure aids.
 
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keef247 said:
Yep, love Honda (the old school stuff) but the gearboxes always destroy 3rd/4th synchro even on things like the Type R's, the stock K20/K24's will happily go bang on standard power, along with using rubbish like the weak type on timing chain and silly plastic guides, I could list countless things and have had the pleasure of working for Honda as well when the FK2 came out, the irony is though, although they like to go bang (which the internet doesn't like to admit to when it's stock power) they also can and do take ridiculous power when supercharged/turboed, even a home built modified setup, as does the old D/B/F/H series, and the boxes also can take a fair bit of power...

The problem is unless you get a nice JDM import only model direct from Japan like a DC5R Integra, it'll 90% likely have been owned by a chav and ran on too low of an octane fuel and go bang/have been poorly maintained, as with RX7's...

I grew up with the garage that built the fastest FD3S in europe for 6 years running (which he daily drove 30+ miles each way to work a day) and it was only a 13B twin rotor and was a monster, yet the internet will tell you rotaries aren't reliable :rolleyes:

The problem with Honda's over here was (before it closed) that they'd have been made poorly by Rover technicans in Swindon, hence why those models are not as strong engine/box wise/quality control as you get from a straight from Japan fresh import, once it's been fiddled with/neglected over here in the wrong hands, it becomes a nightmare.

When the EP3 CTR came out I remember them all being kained to death bouncing off the limiter from cold by chavs and finance care free owners, and a performance vtec engine LOVES to drink oil, so most were kained about with way less oil in them everytime on top of that, and never had it checked and thus quickly doing either perminant damage or chipping away at the future lifespan.

You also in the trade, will come across loads of really stupid things that grenade the lifespan of engines, like for example the GT86/BRZ being spec'ed with the wrong oil from factory, and people sticking to that and refusing to listen, along with them not using a gasket on the sump and instead far too much sealant, which then ends up blocking the oil strainer/pick up pipes and you guessed it BANG! Or leads to them going bang in the future. Such a shame.

Out of the 4 performance Honda's I've owned, only 1 hasn't had a gearbox issue, but I didn't own it long enough, however it did have one of the tougher boxes tbf, so probably would have been fine/lasted a lot longer...

The trouble is, now a days, everything ISN'T built to last. Instead it's designed to break/fail sooner/be traded in for peanuts whilst someone like me out the back swaps in a new engine/box and puts it back on the forecourt for silly money once you've left...

Then you have the nonsense the VAG group does using custom tooling to assemble their cars, i.e. mechanics have to constantly buy more tools to work on them! And they deliberately package stuff so it is a nightmare to work on, for example if you look at how you replace a radiator on a golf vs a civic, it will blow your mind the amount of stuff that has to be removed to access it on the golf vs the honda, it is beyond ridiculous and done on purpose so you get bent over at a main Stealer...

I could go on but you get the idea.

So far I have worked for BMW/Honda/JLR/Nissan-Renault and done pretty much all the common commercial vehicles, along with transporting brand new cars to and from clients and to auction etc etc etc... I've yet to find anything new that I'd consider would last nor be maintainable the same way as a 60-90's car.

Pair that with idiots that think it's acceptable to change their oil at 10-20k miles because the book or main Stealer tells you to (so it goes bang and they can sell you another car...) it's no wonder stuff now is rubbish, then pair that with people driving around in too low of a gear so it pops and bangs and revving the nuts off it, RIP DCT boxes of anything sporty in the future!
And thus is why I prefer maintaining classic cars with souls to them that aren't the size of yachts and have this thing called 'handling' and 'feedback' and don't weigh as much as a planet nor look pure aids.
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The pressure from modern emissions rules has made things less reliable, more filters, thinner/lighter metals etc. Plastics are like cheese now too.

It's a shame they don't give points for making things to last. Having to replace things is a lot worse for the environment long-term :/
 
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Nasher said:
The pressure from modern emissions rules has made things less reliable, more filters, thinner/lighter metals etc. Plastics are like cheese now too.

It's a shame they don't give points for making things to last. Having to replace things is a lot worse for the environment long-term :/
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Yep and you use MORE fuel to meet these emissions regulations, especially with trucks, so the irony is ridiculous!

And they deliberately make everything now out of plastic that thus doesn't last, for example inlet manifolds/pipework/cam covers, the list is endless, all stuff that heat cycles/warps/cracks and cant be recycled. Pointless!

It is just made to con you from the start now, then you do it all over again as I say, whilst out back they're chucking a new part/engine/box in and when you leave it's on the forecourt to rip the next person off.
 
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