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Exactly, the 0-60 time makes it look quicker than it really is.
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Exactly, the 0-60 time makes it look quicker than it really is.
[TW]Fox;22294714 said:
Why do 0-60 times hold any relevance these day anyhow? In gear acceleration is far more appealing. As I suspect none of us are traffic light racers...
Anyone saying the 116D isn't slow musn't have driven one..
To sum. Get the 116D it's fine for the job it will be used for, the savings you make seem to be worthwhile.
[TW]Fox;22294155 said:
It's about time we agreed on something
Yeah, because the first thing that happens after a crash is the police turn up and check for tuning boxes? 
The chances of you crashing are very low, and the chances of you crashing and somebody ever finding out you have a tuning box are probably equivalent to the ISS crashing in to your living room.
And the idea that it's 'bad publicity' - can you imagine it? "NEWSFLASH: Kellogg's employee crashes with a diesel tuning box installed!!!"
Never going to happen
The chances of you crashing are very low, and the chances of you crashing and somebody ever finding out you have a tuning box are probably equivalent to the ISS crashing in to your living room.
And the idea that it's 'bad publicity' - can you imagine it? "NEWSFLASH: Kellogg's employee crashes with a diesel tuning box installed!!!"
Never going to happen
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If the business insurance is voided by undeclared mods, then if he hits someone and cripples them, will the insurer pay their medical costs should they somehow discover the mod? In a serious accident the vehicles will be analysed to the nth degree I imagine. I don't see how it's any better than failing to declare any other material mod in that it's effectively lying to the insurer.
£50 a month plus the low emissions bonus so probably around £70 a month.
The other extremely economic option is a the Mondeo Zetec 116bhp eco or whatever it is....if I took that I would actually get paid about £20 a month for having it
Gross or net? If gross then I cant say id be bothered. If you're in effect getting 50 quid a month extra in your pocket though just for having a more weedy version of the same car (but better specced) then I would probably just go with it. Worth while trdt driving both to see what you would be comfortable with.
With regards to tuning sure you could take the risk but a company car is usually just a tool, doesn't really matter how powerful it is when all you're doing is sitting at 70 all day travelling between sites. When I had mine spec mattered far more than power to me, never usually cared about the difference between 100 and 140/150bhp - they're all diesel at the end of the day too.
Oh I did once have an astra 1.3 diesel as a temp hire car though - thing was a death trap
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Yeah, because the first thing that happens after a crash is the police turn up and check for tuning boxes?
The chances of you crashing are very low, and the chances of you crashing and somebody ever finding out you have a tuning box are probably equivalent to the ISS crashing in to your living room.
And the idea that it's 'bad publicity' - can you imagine it? "NEWSFLASH: Kellogg's employee crashes with a diesel tuning box installed!!!"
Never going to happen
I'm sure it would be a different case if someone were killed/seriously injured in a crash. Hardly something to gamble on when your job is at stake. And yes I'm sure the insurance company would love to find anything to void the insurance so they don't have to fork out for a lifetime of medical care...
Yes they will pay the medical costs of someone the OP cripples even if they have made subtle and temporary modifications to the car that went undeclared. What about if they had a Bluetooth cradle installed? Probably not in that case - that's a category II modification and all bets are off.
I must have a bigger pair than the rest of you because I simply do not base my decisions on infinitesimally small chances of hugely unlikely situations occuring. Do you take an umbrella out when its a sunny day, just in case?
Let me know when you've found an example, written or through hearsay, of a massively serious crash involving serious injuries or deaths where the insurance company have refused to pay any money because a temporary modification was made to one of the vehicles involved and this made the local or national press.
If you find even one, which I doubt, this will still proves my point that we are dealing with things that are, for all intents and purposes, not going to happen.
If you are massively concerned, have a flashable remap installed. This will be a little more expensive but nobody will ever find out. I am fairly sure even the best accident investigators are not checking ECU fuel map values after crashes.
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Maybe I'm just thinking its not worth the risk, regardless if there is a story already existing of an insurance company not paying out because of modifications, I honestly can't be bothered to look. But even if there wasn't I would hate to be the first.
Also your attitude stinks, you are one of those drivers who thinks they are flawless and will never be in a crash. Very bad attitude to have on the roads, what's to stop anyone from crashing into you? Or are you that good at observing all angles whilst driving you would be able to avoid such events?
You are making a completely incorrect assumption. I do not think I will never crash, but I do know that simply statistically my chances of being in a major accident with deaths that warrants a hugely detailed analysis of the vehicles involved are very low. It's not an attitude it's just the reality. If someone crashes in to me, I'd imagine they aren't going to be downloading my ECU fuel map.
That said, if we are getting in to it, I would say that my day-to-day observation is better than most. Mostly because I pay more attention and it has been tuned over the years by the types of driving I have to do.
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