120Hz vs 1440/1600p

Phunky said:
Why? From my understanding Scribbys just got the same A- panels and some more PCBs from Korea, the only diff is he will be stocking them in the US himself.
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Scribby has A panels, not A- ones.

He also offers a Pixel Perfect option (120Hz.net doesn't)

The Tempests supposedly have a sturdy, low-to-the-ground stand that's only beaten by the Crossover (the Cats have a crappy stand)

Scribby also claims that every monitor will be hand-checked before dispatch.

Though TBH we have to wait and see whether the monitors live up to these promising claims. Last I read, the ME and SE versions should be sent out to customers soon, and the OC versions (which I pre-ordered) should be ready by late-October / early-November
 
blackoctagon said:
Scribby has A panels, not A- ones.
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You do relise that the A grade is just based on the entire batch and still means that panels will have errors?

OVERLOAD said:
Grade A panels allow for 3/3/5 dead/stuck/or bright pixels during the warranty period.
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So these "A" panels can have 3 dead/stuck or 5 bright pixels, so its not really amazingly different from the risk of the A- panels.

blackoctagon said:
He also offers a Pixel Perfect option (120Hz.net doesn't)
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Which is just him checking that they fall within the acceptable boundaries, you could still get a panel with a dead pixel or even a few stuck ones.

This was the same with original sellers of the catleap and wasn't worth the extra £££s as you could still end up with defected screen that was classed as "perfect"
 
Phunky said:
You do relise that the A grade is just based on the entire batch and still means that panels will have errors?

So these "A" panels can have 3 dead/stuck or 5 bright pixels, so its not really amazingly different from the risk of the A- panels.
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Scribby's definition of "A" grade panels is as follows:
http://www.overlordcomputer.com/category_s/1820.htm

"In any given group up to (and in some instances above) 70% of grade A panels will be error free for the given warranty period (essentially grade A+ panels.) The remaining 30% can have up to 3 dead, 3 stuck, or 5 bright pixels as an acceptable grade A panel."

EDIT: More here: http://www.overlordforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4#p145

My understanding is that for A- panels, a lower percentage of panels in the batch will be error free, and on top of that, up to 5 dead pixels (as opposed to 3 for A rated panels) is considered acceptable and non-defective
Phunky said:
Which is just him checking that they fall within the acceptable boundaries, you could still get a panel with a dead pixel or even a few stuck ones.

This was the same with original sellers of the catleap and wasn't worth the extra £££s as you could still end up with defected screen that was classed as "perfect"
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No, in Scribby's case paying extra for Pixel Perfect means that he will check it and only send you the screen if it is completely free of dead/bright/stuck pixels: http://www.overlordcomputer.com/category_s/1823.htm

"Pixel Perfect Overlord Tempest Models
  1. Panel Warranty: One (1) year. No dead/stuck/bright pixels shall appear during the warranty period"
 
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yeah but if you've got a 2B catleap that is luckily pixel perfect and overclocks to 120hz, and you're planning to replace the stand with a decent desk or wall mount, then there's no difference, and I have mine now. So it hardly 'blows it out of the water', it'll just be a less risky buy...
 
Well lets say i have tried 3 screens for nvidia surround, sold them due to heat and the fact that the side monitors have stretched images etc. i then purchased the dell u2711 and whilst the colours were ok i sold it as i hated the anti glare coating and the fact that i had to push it away from me as i couldt take the picture in.

In the end i now have a 120 hz benq xl2420t and it is amazing.... The colours are not that far off the dell and the 120hz is crisp.

People say they cant see anything above 60hz, well that is rubbish as i couldnt see much difference in colours between the benq and the dell so i suppose everyone is different.

Oh also i love the benq as it runs sooooo much cooler than the sweat box that the dell u2711 was.
 
You know I think a lot about monitors is subjective. I am 100% happy with my 120Hz 1080p TN monitor (like the Samsung S27A950D) and can certainly tell a difference when I compare 120Hz mode to 60Hz mode. That said, this monitor isn't actually that impressive in the input lag (12-19.3ms according to PRAD.de measurements) so some people prefer screens like the ultra low lag ASUS VG278H/VG278H. I haven't tested the ASUS but I can honestly say I notice no lag whatsoever on the Sammy, even if it is pushing 20ms.

Different strokes for different folks I guess. The kicker is that in the world of monitors we cannot really walk into a showroom and compare a large variety of them in different modes, and compare desktop to gaming to movie performance right there in the shop.
 
DreadNiK said:
yeah but if you've got a 2B catleap that is luckily pixel perfect and overclocks to 120hz, and you're planning to replace the stand with a decent desk or wall mount, then there's no difference, and I have mine now. So it hardly 'blows it out of the water', it'll just be a less risky buy...
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Well maybe I am indeed getting excited, and IF you do all those things it will basically be comparable. I'm looking forward to 1-2 months from now when we have user reviews comparing the 2 screens.
 
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