£1400 budget Gaming PC advice

Hi welcome to the forum :)

Are you able to build a pc yourself ?

As for that system it is based on an older chipset. I would be looking at a newer Z370/H370/B360 CoffeeLake or an AMD Ryzen myself.

Is the budget just for the tower ?

What monitor are you going to be using ?
 
Max1musae said:
Hi guys,

Brand new on here and have heard there's unbelievable knowledge on these forums so hopefully I can get some adbice. Have made a build on OCUK and just wondering if anyone would swap any parts out on it? Budget is £1400 as stated.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/tita...ni29#WTQk1#VUbiSb2~2$biSc2~30biSd2~2XbnTq2x/x
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Baby lake is 7th Gen Intel, currently on 8th... The difference is intel finally has taken the step to add more cores !

Also, your budget, do you need a monitor to go with it ? If not what's your current one ?
 
lee32uk said:
Hi welcome to the forum :)

Are you able to build a pc yourself ?

As for that system it is based on an older chipset. I would be looking at a newer Z370/H370/B360 CoffeeLake or an AMD Ryzen myself.

Is the budget just for the tower ?

What monitor are you going to be using ?
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I think I probably could if I had too but I never have before. Don't have any friends local with experience either :(

Is the chip age a problem do you think or worth going for most recent ones possible? I'm open to AMD CPU's, have no allegiance to Intel just vaguely familiar with their processors.

Budget just for tower yes.

Not sure which monitor(separate research) but it'll be 144hz and 4k for sure.

Thanks for replying !
 
lee32uk said:
Hi welcome to the forum :)

Are you able to build a pc yourself ?

As for that system it is based on an older chipset. I would be looking at a newer Z370/H370/B360 CoffeeLake or an AMD Ryzen myself.

Is the budget just for the tower ?

What monitor are you going to be using ?
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I think I probably could if I had too but I never have before. Don't have any friends local with experience either :(

Is the chip age a problem do you think or worth going for most recent ones possible? I'm open to AMD CPU's, have no allegiance to Intel just vaguely familiar with their processors.

Budget just for tower yes.

Not sure which monitor(separate research) but it'll be 144hz and 4k for sure.

Thanks for replying !

orbitalwalsh said:
Baby lake is 7th Gen Intel, currently on 8th... The difference is intel finally has taken the step to add more cores !

Also, your budget, do you need a monitor to go with it ? If not what's your current one ?
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Hopefully the above answers your question too. Not too in the loop RE difference between 7 and 8th Gen Intel products so will definitely take that on board. Other than gaming the PC won't do anything remotely taxing so not sure if that's a factor ?

Thanks for replying !
 
Max1musae said:
I think I probably could if I had too but I never have before. Don't have any friends local with experience either :(

Is the chip age a problem do you think or worth going for most recent ones possible? I'm open to AMD CPU's, have no allegiance to Intel just vaguely familiar with their processors.

Budget just for tower yes.

Not sure which monitor(separate research) but it'll be 144hz and 4k for sure.

Thanks for replying !
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It isn't as difficult as you might think. Plus we were all in the same boat at some point. As long as you take your time and read instructions properly then you will be fine. Plus there are lots of people on here to help if you have any problems. You also have loads of videos on youtube showing build guides. Some might be older vids but they give you an idea of what is involved.

As for the cpu well the one in your link is a 4 core 4 thread i5. The latest CoffeeLake i5's are 6 core 6 thread so they will last that bit longer.

You do get better value with Ryzen at the cost of a few fps. If you are going for a higher resolution screen though then the difference isn't as much. As for 144Hz 4K then you can forget that :D You would need some serious gpu power for that. I would suggest 1440p/165Hz if you play a lot of 1st person shooters. Just be aware that a G-Sync monitor of that resolution will set you back around £599 or more.

The other option would be an AMD Vega 56 GPU and Freesync screen as they are cheaper than G-Sync.
 
Pre-built

My basket at Overclockers UK:
  • 1 x OcUK Gaming Gigawattz - Limited Edition Ryzen 5 2600 Gaming PC = £1,272.98
    • Memory:Team Group Dark Pro "8Pack Edition" 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C14 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/
    • Graphics:Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070Ti Gaming 8192MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
    • SSD Option:WD Blue 3D NAND 250GB 2.5" SATA 6Gbps Solid State Drive (WDS250G2B0A)
    • Storage:Seagate BarraCuda 1TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache HDD - *System Stock*
    • Case:Phanteks Eclipse P300 Glass Midi Tower Case - Black
Total: £1,287.08 (includes shipping: £14.10)​
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My basket at Overclockers UK:
  • 1 x OcUK Gaming Chromium ATX Gaming PC - Intel Core i3 8100 / i5 8400 = £1,166.94
    • CPU:Intel Core i5-8400 2.8GHz (Coffee Lake) Socket LGA1151 Processor - Retail
    • Memory:Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-19200C14 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD416G24
    • Solid State Drive (Primary):TeamGroup 240GB L5 Lite SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 3D NAND Solid State Drive
    • Storage Drive:Seagate BarraCuda 1TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache HDD - *System Stock*
    • Wireless Networking:Unwanted
    • Lighting:Unwanted
    • Operating System:Microsoft Windows 10 64-Bit DVD - OEM (MS-KW9-00139)
    • Security Software:Bullguard Anti-Virus 2017 - 1 PC 1 Year **Offer Price**
    • Case:Kolink Refractor Midi Tower Gaming Case - Black
    • Graphics Card:Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070Ti Gaming 8192MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
Total: £1,181.04 (includes shipping: £14.10)​
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PC unit is £1050 - OCUK can build it for you for £100-150. (By CD key online )

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,474.73 (includes shipping: £15.90)
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Thanks both for replying. Not sure how to multi-quote from my phone so I'll just manually reply to you both!

Lee- coffee lake definitely makes sense as that is a tangible improvement. I'm open too Ryzen if the budget is pushed up by a better graphics card etc as a trade-off definitely. 1440p would be fine I'm sure. Yes mostly FPS stuff but also stray into RPGs like The Witcher, Dark Souls etc. Have heard good things about Vega but again not sure on freesync Vs gsync argument.

Orbital - is that second prebuilt's CPU competitive? Just on ghz alone it looks slower than i3 bit unsure if that would affect it in practice? Looking at your 3rd option that appears an insanely good deal - for me to build I'm assuming ? Or is that where you state OCUK could build for £100-150?
 
https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/core_i5/i5-8400

i5 8400 boosts to 3.8ghz all cores when gaming - need a better cooler then stock intel though

3rd option, self build of pay OCUK to build at roughly £100-150 . believe they can build and test without loading CD Key -£105 and can buy your own to activate windows

if going to self build.. get the Gigabyte Vega 64 for £500! more powerful and drive that monitor slightly better for longer :D

Built dual builds - ryzen 2600 would offer more performance at stock then 1600 did and OC higher, only got 3.8ghz on mine but 2600 should hit 4.1ghz all cores!
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also ryzen 1600+ vega 56 and ran just as well , gtx 1070ti did have the lead but no bottlenecks from both CPU on either card at 1080p!

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orbitalwalsh said:
https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/core_i5/i5-8400

i5 8400 boosts to 3.8ghz all cores when gaming - need a better cooler then stock intel though

3rd option, self build of pay OCUK to build at roughly £100-150 . believe they can build and test without loading CD Key -£105 and can buy your own to activate windows

if going to self build.. get the Gigabyte Vega 64 for £500! more powerful and drive that monitor slightly better for longer :D

Built dual builds - ryzen 2600 would offer more performance at stock then 1600 did and OC higher, only got 3.8ghz on mine but 2600 should hit 4.1ghz all cores!
ArtC5cw.jpg

also ryzen 1600+ vega 56 and ran just as well , gtx 1070ti did have the lead but no bottlenecks from both CPU on either card at 1080p!

mzOeTUe.jpg
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orbitalwalsh said:
https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/core_i5/i5-8400

i5 8400 boosts to 3.8ghz all cores when gaming - need a better cooler then stock intel though

3rd option, self build of pay OCUK to build at roughly £100-150 . believe they can build and test without loading CD Key -£105 and can buy your own to activate windows

if going to self build.. get the Gigabyte Vega 64 for £500! more powerful and drive that monitor slightly better for longer :D

Built dual builds - ryzen 2600 would offer more performance at stock then 1600 did and OC higher, only got 3.8ghz on mine but 2600 should hit 4.1ghz all cores!
ArtC5cw.jpg

also ryzen 1600+ vega 56 and ran just as well , gtx 1070ti did have the lead but no bottlenecks from both CPU on either card at 1080p!

mzOeTUe.jpg
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This is super interesting, thanks for testing!

Do like the idea of that Vega 64 and giving AMD a go! I think building it would be fun too. Might look at getting a bunch of parts together for a full build. Not sure on cooling etc requirements for a machine like that (now into properly virgin territory!)
 
Max1musae said:
This is super interesting, thanks for testing!

Do like the idea of that Vega 64 and giving AMD a go! I think building it would be fun too. Might look at getting a bunch of parts together for a full build. Not sure on cooling etc requirements for a machine like that (now into properly virgin territory!)
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leave it with stock cooler for the time being. see how you get on. AMD have done well with it but as always, aftermarket gives you best performance to sound

lots of build videos out their from well known people on youtube etc to watch for self builds :D
 
Max1musae said:
1070ti really that good? I thought this rig would come pretty close to that. Seems to be tough to argue against those two pre builds for the money then really!
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As a loose rule of thumb

Rx570/580 and gtx 1060 is often used for high/ultra 60hz 1080p 60fps gaming, though the. Can push higher

Gtx 1070 /Vega 56 quoted for 144hz 1080p or ultra wide 1080p Ultra settings or 60hz 1440p

Gtx 1070ti+ or Vega 64 is 144hz 1440p gaming !

1070ti is just a little weaker then gtx 1080 but not that much :)

Only thing with the pre-built, pay extra for Formula 550w unit !

Though as you can see, Nvidia G-sync monitors cost a bomb compared to AMD Freesync, reason why I included that self build or have it built for you

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,033.18 (includes shipping: £13.20)​
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Ahh that's really handy, thanks!

Looking at this for an Nvidia prebuilt:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...S2'4wbhNT2'5;bhOa2'5,bhOb2'53bhOc2'5*bjaG2_7@

The 3 year guarantee / warranty is really attractive to be honest since I'm a novice so that is influencing me. I think it would do everything I'd need it too from what you've been saying. Plus little bit below budget so wouldn't have to save long for a badass monitor. I'd just use a regular 1080 for a month ha!
 
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