1440 vs 4K

Well after a lot of research a 4K screen with HDCP is well in to 4 figures.
So I guess there is no point in going along that route. Netflix, Amazon and other streaming services will drop down to HD if they detect a non HDCP panel, even if it says 4K on the box.

Looks like it will be a 1440p at 144hz screen which on the plus saves me some £££
 
This is the thing. What do I want.
A) Get the best of both with a high refresh 4K, but its sill money, so that's out.
b) 144hz at 1440p. Some good prices for good tech, sharp deep pictures but no point playing UHD movies on it.
c) Get a 4K display but games will run at 60hz. Can play UHD movies but thinking about it, that is only going to be a small percent of the time.
Though when you do play something in 4K, it will look stunning. Another downside is the scaling issue on windows/office work and that is not perfect.
 
Besides, from what I hear 1440p on a 4K display looks like arse. So you probably can't have one single monitor for both 1440p (gaming) and 4k (streaming).
 
I really was hoping to go 4K but I think the scaling issue is a bigger issue than can the GPU support 4k.
There is no guarantee that legacy apps that I use and MS office will scale up without issues. Its great to
have super sharp visuals but if you have to keep setting every app and hope for the best, I think thats a flaw.
 
sybaris said:
I really was hoping to go 4K but I think the scaling issue is a bigger issue than can the GPU support 4k.
There is no guarantee that legacy apps that I use and MS office will scale up without issues. Its great to
have super sharp visuals but if you have to keep setting every app and hope for the best, I think thats a flaw.
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There are few ways to get applications scaled and workarounds for some problems.
https://www.google.com/search?q=windows+10+scaling+fix
 
FoxEye said:
Besides, from what I hear 1440p on a 4K display looks like arse. So you probably can't have one single monitor for both 1440p (gaming) and 4k (streaming).
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Of course lower source resolution can never give as much information as native resolution, but good sharpening helps lot to avoid water colour look.
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And higher pixel densities help in that compared to scaling 1920x1080 to 2560x1440 monitor.
 
Been gaming @ 4k for years. 4k gaming monitors/TV's and required gfx crads is not cheap as it's the high end of gaming.

Smoothness - most modern monitors have VRR under either G-sync or Free sync. There a re a few 4k 144hz monitors well under £1k. Acer with the XV273k amongst others (probably superseded by now). But of you can afford then OLED.

HDR is a bit of a gimmick unless OLED so don't go down the route of spending extra for higher HDR numbers on LCD's.

Graphics cards for 4k 6800XT/3080/3090/6900XT

Displays - I'd probably go OLED as even a 4k LCD will be best part of of an OLED cost wise. 48 inch is the smallest though. CAn get 55 inch at just over £1k. You want a panel that does high hz (120hz+) and has VRR.

Starting to see some 32 inch monitors 4k high hz but again price is in OLED territory.

I use MS office @ 4k all the time - great for spreadsheets and scales perfectly. Just run an app to scale at a lower resolution within it's own settings if it doesnt like 4k. Never come across anything that scales badly. Most things have caught up now. Maybe some 3rd party apps that had support withdrawn yonks ago maybe.

4k will stream across display port 1.4 no problem. Via HDMI you'll need a monitor/ TV with HDMI that supports 4k 120hz which is HDMI 2.1 - and the latest gen gfx cards with HDMI 2.1 outputs.
 
Thanks
I have been looking for 4K at 144hz. I think to get what I really want its going to cost a bit extra.
Will be running a 3070 Ti with it, that was the best I could get at the time for £££ so for a few years I will stick with it.
 
sybaris said:
Thanks
I have been looking for 4K at 144hz. I think to get what I really want its going to cost a bit extra.
Will be running a 3070 Ti with it, that was the best I could get at the time for £££ so for a few years I will stick with it.
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If you are watching streaming games or movies then that gfx card will do and so will a 60hz panel - just get one with VRR for gaming. No streaming to watch is output at 120 fps at 4k so 60hz is fine and films are 28fps.

Any 4k card will stream films at 4k.

Gaming when you are playing is where high hz comes in. A 4k 60hz VRR panel will be fine for you. If you've never seen a high hz panel then you won't have the shock of going back to 60hz. Iiyama do some decent priced 4k 60hz with VRR - it's what I was using before my current monitor.

Watching/streaming 4k doesn't need much not even VRR.

Actual Gaming at 4k 60hz VRR is much cheaper than the pinnacle of PC master race gaming @ 4k 120hz+
 
I will see if there is a 4K screen at 144hz that is at a fair price. Asus ROG Swift PG32UQX is about £3500 give or take a couple of hundred. ... I nearly fell off my seat. Possibly if I can find a 32" at £1K I might consider it.
 
sybaris said:
I want the joy of becoming one of the higher res elitists and having that shock of seeing 60hz
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You mean seeing 120hz?

Well high hz high res comes with an elitist wallet.

Both the 48 and 55 inch LG Oleds are ~£1150 and do 120hz so I'd go with one of those if you have the room. You'll need a deep desk or wall mounted. You'll also have perfect image motion handling and true blacks - they are pinnacle PC gaming panels - just a bit big for a desk - most people cope though. With the 3070ti you'll just need to turn down a few settings and some you need to turn off anyway - like anti aliasing. Plus it's aTV so will have many streaming apps built in. Even freesat :) Even free wireless headphones thrown in via one hi-fi high street retailer!
 
4K TV/Movies are noticeably sharper. But I am reluctant to spend on a 4K screen if my games are limited to 60 fps.
Im running 1440 on a 27" at 60hz and hope that if I went 1440p 144hz or even slightly higher on a 32", the text is not going to be much smaller or the upscaling make things blurred.

If only there was a 32" 4K at 144hz that was affordable. but even then upscaling is an unknown
 
It's not just the cost of a 4K screen tho - you'll need a top-end GPU to push 4K at 144Hz+ without making some compromises with GFX settings.

I guess I'm really not sure what the fuss over 4K video is. Even 1080p looks fine to me :p
 
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