14600K 6100Mhz Cinebench CPUz Run tes

[gerardfraser]

Well I do play PC Games only and it is 99% of the time at 4K Max setting on every CPU/GPU combination I use.So 99% GPU bound. I only expect and want equal performance when buying new PC Gear.
PC Gaming rigs I built for personal use since Oct 21 10850K/12600K/12900K/13700KF/14600K/14900KF/AMD7700X all in truth gave around same FPS on GPU's RTX3070ti/3080/3090/4080/4090

14900Kf/14600K are a couple FPS behind in PC Games I tested over 13th Gen and I can not figure out why and I am thinking immature ASUS BIOS problem.

Also, test I have done because on mostly GPU bound in PC Games CPU Clock speed made no difference.Turned Ram speed make no difference beyond DDR5 5600 up to my testing 7400Mhz at 4K also.

So for me the same PC two weeks ago I removed 13700KF and dropped in 14900Kf. Tested some PC Games and the 13700KF was faster by a couple FPS at 4K over the 14900KF.Now to be clear I had the same problem switching from lets say 12600K to 13700KF where the 12600K had a couple more FPS and the AMD7700x had a couple more FPS over 13700KF.

Again I chocked it up to BIOS not mature enough.

There is no real performance difference for me in my use case running 4K PC gaming and CPU clock speed and tuned ram make no real difference.

The more CPUs Intel release the hotter and more wild they get when running full work loads where one needs actual full custom loop for production work if overclocking.

For fun running Cinebench and did not crash but I had it set to downclock on 360 AIO and bump temp limit up to 115

 

[Rroff]

Something not right there my 14700K is rocking through everything - I seem to have got a good one for gaming it holds up clocks well in single thread and most gaming workloads (generally about 5% ahead of the reviewer results), though is slightly down ~0.5-1% or so compared to reviewer chips for heavy multi-threading but that might be due to hitting the limits of my cooling as I'm using a Dark Rock Pro 4 instead of an AIO.

 

[Vimes]

@gerardfraser Interesting, your findings, if a little unexpected.
Games like Cities Skylines, not the best of examples due to its sub optimisation as yet, that can, to a point, be CPU and GPU dependant might show some differences to some other games.
Limited testing of CS2, but I did notice how well it utilises the P and E cores.
Some city builder type games, exception at this point being CS2, don't generally stretch the GPU as much as needing a decent CPU and as much IPC as possible.

 

[gerardfraser]

Something not right there my 14700K is rocking through everything - I seem to have got a good one for gaming it holds up clocks well in single thread and most gaming workloads (generally about 5% ahead of the reviewer results), though is slightly down ~0.5-1% or so compared to reviewer chips for heavy multi-threading but that might be due to hitting the limits of my cooling as I'm using a Dark Rock Pro 4 instead of an AIO.

There is nothing wrong with any of my CPU's

@gerardfraser Interesting, your findings, if a little unexpected.
Games like Cities Skylines, not the best of examples due to its sub optimisation as yet, that can, to a point, be CPU and GPU dependant might show some differences to some other games.
Limited testing of CS2, but I did notice how well it utilises the P and E cores.
Some city builder type games, exception at this point being CS2, don't generally stretch the GPU as much as needing a decent CPU and as much IPC as possible.

Yes of course you will have certain games that are just cpu limited ,me personally I would never play a game like cities skylines or point and click games. That is just me but if someone wants to play those games and buys a 14900K and RTX 4090 to play at 720p/1080p then that is fine also and where you would have the best results on high end CPU.

In the screen I posted the 14900KF hit 475watts,now that is a thing but can be perfectly playable in PC Games at 6000Mhz and low temps.I am not knocking the Intel CPU's they are fine and for my use case 100% fine,sold 14900KF's and 13700KF and sticking with 14600K because it just works for me.

The Last of Us Part I 4K HDR rtx 4090 14900KF 6000Mhz all core/threads running on screen display on 45℃-60℃ at vcore 1.35v-1.41v​

 

[Vimes]

There is nothing wrong with any of my CPU's

Yes of course you will have certain games that are just cpu limited ,me personally I would never play a game like cities skylines or point and click games. That is just me but if someone wants to play those games and buys a 14900K and RTX 4090 to play at 720p/1080p then that is fine also and where you would have the best results on high end CPU.

In the screen I posted the 14900KF hit 475watts,now that is a thing but can be perfectly playable in PC Games at 6000Mhz and low temps.I am not knocking the Intel CPU's they are fine and for my use case 100% fine,sold 14900KF's and 13700KF and sticking with 14600K because it just works for me.

The Last of Us Part I 4K HDR rtx 4090 14900KF 6000Mhz all core/threads running on screen display on 45℃-60℃ at vcore 1.35v-1.41v​

Considering you have sold the 13700k and 14900k how close is the preformance, overall, in the games you play when using the 14600k CPU.?
Did you consider that to be better in some ways to the 13700k?

 

[gerardfraser]

Considering you have sold the 13700k and 14900k how close is the preformance, overall, in the games you play when using the 14600k CPU.?
Did you consider that to be better in some ways to the 13700k?

Well I am the worst person around when it comes to PC Gear because I just buy the new stuff with no expectations on performance or long term usage.I have built at least 15 PC Gaming rigs for myself in the last few years.

Truth is there is no real FPS difference ,for example on 13700KF in Cyberpunk at 4K settings with Path Tracing Ray Reconstruction Frame Generation DLSS Quality 85 FPS 14600K 83 FPS.They are just not equal where I expect to have equal performance.

14th Gen CPU's I bought to try to maintain or hit 6200Mhz all core overclock in every game I played within reason even though I knew there would not be any FPS gains for me in the games I play.
I can not hit 6200Mhz in a couple of games such as The Last Of US Part 1,it is not stable but could do 6000Mhz on 3x14Gen CPU's so I just picked the 14600K and sold the other 13700KF/14900KF for a profit of a few hundred bucks total.

I will not have the 14600K very long and it may not last a month before I switch back to AMD PC Gaming system.

If I was going to give any advice I would say Build a cheap AMD system for PC Gaming at 4k as for me it has equal performance and is cheaper and will last longer or at least another two years of upgrade ability from AMD.
Also enjoy the system you buy because when I am sitting playing PC Games on my 85" Neo QLED PC Monitor I am not worry about some nuts on the internet getting 1 fps more in a certain part of a PC Game I am playing.

 

[Vimes]

@gerardfraser Kinda uncertain to ask, as you might flip flop a dozen times before you change to AMD, but what would you go with if you do?

 

[gerardfraser]

@gerardfraser Kinda uncertain to ask, as you might flip flop a dozen times before you change to AMD, but what would you go with if you do?

Well I will flip flop a bunch of times. I might go with AMD 7700X again when it is back on sale for $250 USD/$349 Canadian like a couple time in the last few months.My most favorite CPU to date over all other AMD/Intel CPU rigs I built.I got rid of the AMD system when RTX 4090 was released because of RTX 4090 problems but they should all be solved now.

 

[Rroff]

If I was going to give any advice I would say Build a cheap AMD system for PC Gaming at 4k as for me it has equal performance and is cheaper and will last longer or at least another two years of upgrade ability from AMD.

If a purely gaming rig not much reason to buy anything other than the 7800x3D, even the 7600X holds up well at 4K aside from a small number of titles for a lot less money. Unfortunately if you do much else with your PC though those processors tend to lag behind.

Reason why I went with the 14700K as it holds up well in both gaming and other workloads without any real weaknesses, while being cheaper and easier to cool than the 13900/14900. Most of the other options have a weakness in at least one area or just cost a lot more money for relatively small gains - unless you do something a lot like certain productivity tasks where the 7950X pulls well out ahead (for specific types of compression or encryption tasks it can be as much as 30% faster - but then you are paying over £150 more).

For gaming purposes I can easily get 6+GHz clocks sustained, but at least without an AIO I've not had any luck getting clocks to hold up over stock in stuff like Cinebench R32 multithreading.