Yeah me too. I really like them now, and they dont even have to be in Sport spec to look nice (makes a change lol).Adz said:Congrats on the E60, fabulous cars all round and the looks have grown on me over the last couple of years.
£15k - looking either to get a 530D or E270CDi...advice please
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I disagree, they look excellent in sport form, but they look good in SE too, as long as they dont have those tiny alloy wheels.[TW]Fox said:
e.g. this looks nice
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2004-BMW-530D...47QQihZ012QQcategoryZ9837QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
looks pretty classy rather than vicious.
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I have to question your logic about petrol vs diesel savings when comparing say a 530D to a 530i.
I agree that the diesel isn't massively more economical, though clearly there is a difference, which seems to amount to around 25% better for the diesel.
I also agree that the petrol is generally cheaper.
However, you do seem to have ignored the fact that chances are the diesel will be worth more when the owners sells the car on. Now clearly we don't know what level of depreciation there will be, but it does mean that the initial price difference will be eroded.
I have to question your logic about petrol vs diesel savings when comparing say a 530D to a 530i.
I agree that the diesel isn't massively more economical, though clearly there is a difference, which seems to amount to around 25% better for the diesel.
I also agree that the petrol is generally cheaper.
However, you do seem to have ignored the fact that chances are the diesel will be worth more when the owners sells the car on. Now clearly we don't know what level of depreciation there will be, but it does mean that the initial price difference will be eroded.
Mr_Sukebe said:
But you've paid more for it in the first place - if, say, a diesel is 20% more when you buy it for £15k 20% less than £15k is a larger saving than the amount you'd then get back when its worth £10k..
Besides, I'd rather having a saving now than if and when I sell it in years to come.
[TW]Fox said:
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Quite clearly if you want the saving upfront, then you're spot on. However, the real world actual costs of running a car must take into account the value of the car when you sell it.
If a diesel costs say £3k more at purchase, then it might be worth £2k more at the point of sale, meaning that the ACTUAL price difference during ownership is £1k, plus any interest that you might have made during the period of ownership on the £3k price difference.
What you've previously said IS correct, but doesn't quite tell the whole story.
5tephen said:If I'm at a roundabout or T-junction and want to pull out quickly, I hit the accelerator rather hard, say half-way. But there's a serious delay between hitting the accelerator and actually getting the car to go, to the point that it's actually dangerous. a) I don't get away until late, and b) because I've pushed the accelerator hard, it accelerates hard immediately rather than gradually and spins the wheels. I'm gradually coming round to it but it's still weird. Is this some safeguard feature to stop the gearbox being slaughtered?
(A third point - been doing about 50% city driving since the last tank fill and I'm only getting 22mpg)
maybe you should have took notice of what fox said and try both versions
denon said:
It was not possible to price a car that was even within £5,000 of the price of the one I got so I had nothing to compare it to. For example. look at the car on eBay that jamoor linked to - it has 10k miles less on the clock and the spec is roughly similar, but mine has 1.5yrs left on the warranty, was last serviced 1000 miles ago, is 6 months newer and I knew the previous driver well.
Also, the petrol wouldn't have been any different on this acceleration thing I was talking about.
Anyhow, switching to Sport mode or the Tiptronic solves the starting-off problem as jamoor suggested.