16, should I start saving up for a car for when I'm 18?

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Hello, basicly as title says, where i live i can get a licence from 18, and i want a nice car to start with, should I, start saving up now so i have 2 k or something when im 18 to get me a car?

For my 1st car I was thinking of a prelude 2.2 vtec, or an old corolla e10 serie hatchback 1.6 gtsi, also considered a civic coupe and an old '69 cadillac eldorado ( tax free cos of age ), and add lpg to it to save fuel costs.

So basicly, are the cars named above worth saving for already at this age, also pls no suggesttions for fiesta's/clio's/corsa's/micra's etcetc: I refuse to drive anything below 1.6 litre 16 valve petrol 2.0 liter 8 valve petrol, 2.0 liter diesel, or 1.8 liter turbo diesel, and i'm ready to accept to spend upto 70% of my wage on insurance/tax... ( might seem odd to you guys but i love cars, even being a passager in a 20 year old jap scrap car is something I like, i absolutly hate small cars though, willing to pay a lot just to drive around in a normall sized car instead of a small one...
 
saving would be a good idea. I don't know what the state of insurance is like in the netherlands, but over here a 2.2vtec prelude is unrealistic for a new driver.
 
Clarkey said:
saving would be a good idea. I don't know what the state of insurance is like in the netherlands, but over here a 2.2vtec prelude is unrealistic for a new driver.
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130€ approx. a month according to a insurace compare site ( i added all info as if i barley got my licence., was 18, 0 damage free years, etcetc ...)

EDIT, sry thats for a 2.0l prelude, 2.2 vtec wasnt in the list of models under prelude :confused: .
 
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hmmm what do you think a 2.2 vtec lude would cost a month if compared to of € 122 a month for a 2.0 l lude?
 
Alan! said:
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Start saving for a house.
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I like my parents and I already asked if I can stay after i get 18, they said yes, I'm their only child btw so no bro's, sisters to worry about.... So no reason for me to leave the house.



EDIT: aww i just checked another site, they did list a 2.2 vtec version now, and € 280 a month for the 2.2 vtext version from 1993, is that worth it u think guys, or just go for the 2.0 l non vtec for 120 € a month, i like the looks of the lude and don't know yet is the 0.2 l and vtec makes such a big difference, if not worth it what car should I go for ( prefer it to be big, big engined, and perhaps under 200 € a month/ 2400€ a year?
 
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snowdog said:
I refuse to drive anything below 1.6 litre 16 valve petrol 2.0 liter 8 valve petrol, 2.0 liter diesel, or 1.8 liter turbo diesel
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It's quite clear you know absolutely nothing about cars, and thus, this sort of 'absolute rufusal' is very silly indeed.

You seem to imply a 2.0 8v petrol engine is roughly equivilant to a 1.6 16v petrol engine. This is not the case. Ditto 1.8TD v 2.0D....

There are many 1.4 litre engines out there which will make a 2.0 non turbo diesel feel like its going backwards, for example. Ditto, there are plenty of 2 litre engines which feel gutless..
 
[TW]Fox said:
It's quite clear you know absolutely nothing about cars, and thus, this sort of 'absolute rufusal' is very silly indeed.

You seem to imply a 2.0 8v petrol engine is roughly equivilant to a 1.6 16v petrol engine. This is not the case. Ditto 1.8TD v 2.0D....

There are many 1.4 litre engines out there which will make a 2.0 non turbo diesel feel like its going backwards, for example. Ditto, there are plenty of 2 litre engines which feel gutless..
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Ok ill say it another way, 100 bhp at least and prefferably not only from 6k-6200 rpm, but a wider power range...
Also car must be approx size of a big/med hatch ( ie not clio etc... size, from astra size), I like the looks of japanese cars from 1990-2000, german cars, and american old cars.
Reliable ( honda/toyota/mitsubishi reliability prefferably)
And finally, affordable, not more as 3k euro's/2k pounds...

Hence i was mainly considering honda lude/civic.
I'm open to suggestions though, i have still 2 years to decide.
 
[TW]Fox said:
Have you ever driven a car? Where does this 'must be over 100bhp' thing come from?
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Want a fast car for german roads, ill be goign to my family in poland regurally, like I am now with parents, i want to be able to drive full speed through germany to get to warsaw from near rotterdam within 12 hours, means i have to do average speed of 125 km/h, obviously this is impossible in poland and holland, so i need to make up time by driving as fast as i can in germany...

I doubt a sub 100bhp big car can go fast enough, and that a small car is comfortable and reliable enough for big journeys of 1500 kilometres/ 1000 miles.

I have no driving experiance at all, and I'm making my conclusions form sitting on a passanger seat, correct me if i'm wrong, but from what I've experienced, small cars are uncomfortable, and less reliable on the long way...

My old mums nissan cherry 1.3 (just 180 k km on te eclock) failed once in poland, and had to be pulled 300 kilometres to destination, while my dads 1.6 93 corolla, with 400 k kilometres on the clock, didn't ever break down on journey's and always drove us safley and comfortably to destination.
 
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snowdog said:
I doubt a sub 100bhp big car can go fast enough, and that a small car is comfortable and reliable enough for big journeys of 1500 kilometres/ 1000 miles.
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learn how to drive

then come back

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seriously, your full of such daft ideas you can tell you've never turned a wheel before.
 
MrLOL said:
learn how to drive

then come back

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seriously, your full of such daft ideas you can tell you've never turned a wheel before.
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I can tell the ride is comfortable or not from just sitting in a car, not driving it, what's the wheel got to do with how smooth a car drives for hours and hours ( smooth as in suspention ), in a golf my back hurts after just 2 hours of sitting in it, while in other cars, i can sit in them for hours comfortably...

Also lay off the aggressive talk, I'm trying to know opinions now, and just saying how I think about stuff so far from experience, I know from experience most small cars have very uncomfortable suspention, and I feel my back and *** hurting from the drive, but I don't knwo how they drive yet, hence I'm asking, worth saving now for a car, or just leave it till I can actually drive one.
 
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i actually would recommend getting an absolute banger for your first car.... just for a year... something cheap... something with a one lit engine,. nice citreon AX or something. After a year you will now how to drive much better than just after your test. then get a nice car :)
 
While i think going for anything over a 1.4 for your first car is a bad choice, its never too early to put money away for the future, save up, get a 1.4 Hatch or something below for 8-9 months and you'll more than likely save enough in 2 years to warrant something with a little more oomph then! :)
 
snowdog said:
I can tell the ride is comfortable or not from just sitting in a car, not driving it, what's the wheel got to do with how smooth a car drives for hours and hours ( smooth as in suspention ), in a golf my back hurts after just 2 hours of sitting in it, while in other cars, i can sit in them for hours comfortably...
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and of course interior design is directly related to engine size ?

if anything is related to interior comfort its age. Newer cars are usually more ergonomic
 
MrLOL said:
and of course interior design is directly related to engine size ?

if anything is related to interior comfort its age. Newer cars are usually more ergonomic
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Suspention, although interior is correct too must have nice comfortable chairs, but the looks i don't care about tbh, just want my *** and back to not hurt after sitting in it long...

What's the reason for not getting a 1.4l + engined car, I am ready to pay a lot for insurance is needed, the quote i got for a 2.0 l prelude is more that affordable, btw if i somehow ever get a small car, it's definatly not going to be french, I don't like the idea of often repairing electrics and good maintainance, i like jap cars mainly cos they can be abused and not serviced and they will still stay fine...

As for the mazda: i have nothing against it, 200 bhp and a nice turbocharged engine, tbh might look into that car too, just hope it's affordable...
 
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In answer to the original question, yes, start saving asap. I saved all my life in a savings account my parents opened for me, and it meant when I passed I could afford something a bit nicer than a lot of my friends could do.
 
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