Soldato
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THIS IS AN OLD THREAD. GO TO THE LAST PAGE BEFORE POSTING AN IRRELEVANT COMMENT >>>>
Some of you may remember this thread from last year: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18157120. This post is the most relevant from the thread: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=16884612&postcount=48
Short story:
And that's basically the contents of that thread.
Anyway, I was in court yesterday; JONES v CHURCH
.
It went to court via Trading Standards so they sorted out all the costs, barristers, evidence collation etc, and the proprietor has pleaded Not Guilty since proceedings began. For the senior trading standards officer I was dealing with it was the first time in 5 years that someone had pleaded Not Guilty and it had actually gone to court.
I was the key witness (obviously) so I was in the witness box for a good hour at the start of the day. It was closer to a proper court than I was imagining: prosecuting and defence barristers, court clerk/lawyer, three magistrates and the defendant behind glass to the side. The trading standards guys were also there at the back just to watch things unfold.
Anyway, to cut a long day short (it took over 7 hours) there was evidence from myself, my girlfriend, the proprietor and the garage manager who were all questioned and cross-examined by both sides. There was also a heap of other literature; written statements from trading standards, a 25 page tyre study from Michelin etc.
End result? He was found guilty on all 3 counts - selling a dangerous tyre, not clearly labelling a part-worn tyre as such, and not clearly informing a customer that a tyre is part-worn.
Total damage? £4,000 in fines, £2,860 in court costs (on top of the £4,000 he'd already spent on going to court) and £129 compensation for me (which was my total bill).
WINNING
Some of you may remember this thread from last year: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18157120. This post is the most relevant from the thread: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=16884612&postcount=48
Short story:
- Got a flat on the motorway
- Got the tyre replaced by a garage as well as some other work (wheel alignment)
- That new tyre then blew on the motorway the day after
- Garage refuse to refund tyre, blame me for hitting a kerb
- Turns out said tyre is 16 years old
- I start to go to the papers but they can't print anything because nothing's proved, and I start chatting to Trading Standards
And that's basically the contents of that thread.
Anyway, I was in court yesterday; JONES v CHURCH
.It went to court via Trading Standards so they sorted out all the costs, barristers, evidence collation etc, and the proprietor has pleaded Not Guilty since proceedings began. For the senior trading standards officer I was dealing with it was the first time in 5 years that someone had pleaded Not Guilty and it had actually gone to court.
I was the key witness (obviously) so I was in the witness box for a good hour at the start of the day. It was closer to a proper court than I was imagining: prosecuting and defence barristers, court clerk/lawyer, three magistrates and the defendant behind glass to the side. The trading standards guys were also there at the back just to watch things unfold.
Anyway, to cut a long day short (it took over 7 hours) there was evidence from myself, my girlfriend, the proprietor and the garage manager who were all questioned and cross-examined by both sides. There was also a heap of other literature; written statements from trading standards, a 25 page tyre study from Michelin etc.
End result? He was found guilty on all 3 counts - selling a dangerous tyre, not clearly labelling a part-worn tyre as such, and not clearly informing a customer that a tyre is part-worn.
Total damage? £4,000 in fines, £2,860 in court costs (on top of the £4,000 he'd already spent on going to court) and £129 compensation for me (which was my total bill).
WINNING
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