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The Gen2 Tuono is pretty damn hard to beat for what you get, £4-5k for a 2010 R model or £5-6k for a Factory model.

Other options are KYM 990 SMT, Speed triple, Monster 821/1200, Hypermotard 821. All v-twins, naturally ;)

There are only 2 factory models on sale in my country. I'm trying to decide if the suspension is good enough on the R or if I'll regret not getting a factory.

It's a big reason for changing the ST actually, I should have gone with the best model they made (the 2012 R model). My bike is great, but there's a niggle in my head and as it's effectively a toy I am going to change it :p

I'd love a relaxed and fun bike like the RnineT/Bonneville for 2-up or relaxed riding, and then a sporty bike like the Tuono/636 for when I just want a play in the mountains on my own.
 
Well it's illegal here so not likely.

I used to do motocross as kids so I know how fun proper off roading is.
 
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In Switzerland there are no green lanes, no off road "paths" and vehicles are strictly limited to designated routes.

They are very serious about preserving the mountains here and you're not even allowed to ride a bicycle in non-designated places.

The only way you could do it is if you owned a field (which I do), and lived far away enough from people not to cause a nuisance (which I do not).

There are also no race circuits in Switzerland for similar nuisance/noise pollution reasons.

You don't need any training to go off road, but do read up a bit on it as the riding style is very different. E.g. you use the rear brake a lot more and stand up most of the time.
 
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The issue is that mods are very difficult to do here as they are highly regulated and costly to get approved.

Changing sprockets isn't an issue but non-standard forks would be. Changing the internals shouldn't be an issue.
 
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I think I'll be checking out the Tuono Gen 2 non-factory then :p

Looks like the factory Ohlins say Aprilia on them, which is usually good enough to get passed the MFK (MOT) here.
 
You can, but the noise and pollution limits are strict. You also need to buy from approved dealers who have the authorised certificates for your exact model of bike.
 
Riding in Switzerland with exhausts that exceed the legal decibel limit is illegal. Not sure why you think that's legal to do.

You will not be allowed to ride the bike unless it is made legal again (bring your baffles) or you get it transported to the border.

It's not a big deal. Arrow, Akra, LeoVince etc all are allowed here with the baffles and they are the exact same models that they sell throughout Europe. Things like Scorpion are not allowed though, but then they're often not allowed in the UK either as they're branded "not for road use". Most people ignore this though.

Oh, and never ever ride here if you have removed your CAT! The fines are incredibly painful, although that will soon be the case in all of Europe and France already hit you with a fine for doing that.
 
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Kreeeee, weren't you thinking about getting an SV? I remember you were posting about wanting to get one at some point. :p

I had one in the UK before I moved that got rear ended and written off. They're great bikes and I'd get another one as a third bike but not a second.
 
The French aren't any better, it's just that the fines are higher here.

There's no need to make all that noise anyway when you're enjoying the mountains, it just draws attention from the police for other things you shouldn't be doing :p

The Italians are awesome though :D
 
Kreeeee any reason you wouldn't consider the Daytona? Easily the best 600 I have ridden.

My Street Triple has the same engine as the Daytona as it's not one of the newer de-tuned Streets, so it's not different enough from my ST. They are also very expensive and end of line now so I'm not convinced about spare parts availability.
 
There's a 2014 Tuono V4R APRC in black at a dealer near me.

2.8k kilometres
2014
Black
£7k
24 months warranty

I'm incredibly tempted to see what the trade in on my bike it's worth as it's a joint aprilia and triumph garage.
 
Link? That's a damn good price for a '14 model, you can easily change the panels on the bike to a different colour too.

Switzerland isn't in the internet age yet.

While it's my least favourite colour I'd save up the money for ohlins front and rear in 2 years time.
 
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