1930s Semi Refurb - Part 0 of ... (Edition: Converting and Tidying up an Outbuilding)

dlockers

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Hi folks,

The new house (subject to contract :D) has an enormous outbuilding, approx 12.8m long and 2.93m. It was professionally built in 2005, and sits off of the floor on a concrete + brick base, i.e. no wood touches the 'floor' (I can visibly see two bricks from the outside).

It is clad in 'regular' wood that looks like it has been creosoted at some point. It has 3 double glazed windows, a stable door and a main entrance. Oh, it also has an inspection pit :D

The interior is not clad or insulated (bare beams), and the roof is a cement fibre corrugated style thing. It is in reasonable shape but having an almost 13 meter long workshop (42 feet for you old timers) is a bit OTT for my needs.

I plan to divide the thing up into 3 separate spaces - a garage, a gym, and an home office.

Questions -
1. are there any considerations for the interior? Can I just go ahead and insulate/plasterboard?
2. is there a more suitable roof? the pitch cement fibre boards aren't exactly air tight - maybe that's OK and I build a sub-ceiling?
3. how much would cedar cost to re-clad the 3 visible sides? Could I go over what is there?

Pics:

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1. I belive you want an air gap and PIR insulation but Google may correct me.

2. Is the roof asbestos/ will your surveyor check?

3.pass but I imagine hanging more weight off the inside batons might cause issues?
 
That is a beast of a shed for sure!

I presume it already has electricity ran to it (can see lights or cameras in the image). I can't offer any answers to your questions but good luck with whatever you do to it.
 
dLockers said:
Hi folks,

The new house (subject to contract :D) has an enormous outbuilding, approx 12.8m long and 2.93m. It was professionally built in 2005, and sits off of the floor on a concrete + brick base, i.e. no wood touches the 'floor' (I can visibly see two bricks from the outside).

It is clad in 'regular' wood that looks like it has been creosoted at some point. It has 3 double glazed windows, a stable door and a main entrance. Oh, it also has an inspection pit :D

The interior is not clad or insulated (bare beams), and the roof is a cement fibre corrugated style thing. It is in reasonable shape but having an almost 13 meter long workshop (42 feet for you old timers) is a bit OTT for my needs.

I plan to divide the thing up into 3 separate spaces - a garage, a gym, and an home office.

Questions -
1. are there any considerations for the interior? Can I just go ahead and insulate/plasterboard?
2. is there a more suitable roof? the pitch cement fibre boards aren't exactly air tight - maybe that's OK and I build a sub-ceiling?
3. how much would cedar cost to re-clad the 3 visible sides? Could I go over what is there?

Pics:

Pcpni0k.png
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That looks Awsome
 
Buffman said:
1. I belive you want an air gap and PIR insulation but Google may correct me.

2. Is the roof asbestos/ will your surveyor check?

3.pass but I imagine hanging more weight off the inside batons might cause issues?
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Will do some research as I think I need to PIR insulate the house too. The roof is cement fibre; I had assumed it was asbestos but it was fitted long after asbestos was banned so I would be shocked if it was.

Thekwango said:
Leave it as it is and host dog/chicken/ferret fighting in the inspection pit.
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It also backs onto allotments so murder/disolve body in the inspection pit a real candidate.

Mysterae_ said:
That is a beast of a shed for sure!

I presume it already has electricity ran to it (can see lights or cameras in the image). I can't offer any answers to your questions but good luck with whatever you do to it.
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Yeah fully wired in :cool:. I need to suss out where and how though as I think the fuse box is ~1950s style.

jonneymendoza said:
That looks Awsome
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:cool:

radderfire said:
I think cedar is one of the most expensive woods. Seems a bit unnecessary, why not just re-stain or repaint it?
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I just wanted to make it look awesome and I love how cedar looks. Staining/painting (Bedec Barn Paint) probably the way I'll go though...
 
Lopéz said:
You could always have the visible sides media blasted, it would give you a brilliant bare timber finish to paint or stain with whatever you like, something really expensive and nice like Sadolin.
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Is that a typical thing to do? Will have a Google, sounds interesting!

Would painting something like this be recommended? I can actually see the builder has his tag above the main door so I may give them a call and see if I can get a 'service' done?
 
dLockers said:
Is that a typical thing to do? Will have a Google, sounds interesting!

Would painting something like this be recommended? I can actually see the builder has his tag above the main door so I may give them a call and see if I can get a 'service' done?
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A friend bought a house with a big workshop like yours, and the previous owner had painted it with a dark paint which didn't look too inspiring.

He had it soda blasted (I think?) back to bare timber and painted it by hand with Sadolin (I've used this on a wooden gate myself) and it looked stunning to be honest.
 
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That's the gate I made, his shed had basically the same finish.

Tell a lie, it wasn't Sadolin - I used Sikkens Cetol HLS and Sikkens Filter 7
 
I have used Sikkens for quite a bit off stuff but not garage -Mainly on Mahogany doors on the extension. That was years ago but as said it did look nice - also good finishes don't come cheap.

I always used creasote with old engine oil mixed in for the garage -stunk for a while but when it dried it looks good and was waterproof.
I see that shed is built on a low wall and I bet there is no sign of rot along base.
 
Hi chaps,

I've had two further considerations I'd like you to heckle:
* Solar panels? I think the roof is south facing.
* Utility/laundry?

And a brucey bonus:
* Use the inspection pit as a wine 'cellar'?
 
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