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1st benchmarks with Deneb

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http://markbench.blogspot.com/2008/11/our-1st-benchmarks-with-deneb.html
Cpu status: ES (over NDA)

Cpu name: Phenom II 940 (core Deneb, AM2+)
Motherboard: M3A79-T Deluxe (AMD 790FX+SB750 )
Memory: 4096 Mb CSX 1066MHz (DDR2)
Graphics: Gigabyte 4870X2 2048Mb @ stock

i7
http://www.au-ja.de/review-intel-corei7-extreme-965-27.phtml
http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/how-much-ram-do-you-need-for-your-core-i7-gaming-pc-/6211-2.html

Deb @ 3Ghz -gets around 22.000 in 3DM06
Core i7 940 (2.93GHz) gets around 18.000 in 3dMark06

Crysis Warhead @ Deneb
http://markbench.blogspot.com/2008/11/crysis-warhead-deneb.html
Only with factory default freqs.


Cpu name: Phenom II 940 (core Deneb, AM2+) @ 3GHz
Motherboard: M3A79-T Deluxe (AMD 790FX+SB750 )
Memory: 4096 Mb CSX 1066MHz (DDR2)
Graphics: Gigabyte 4870X2 2048Mb
Os: Win Vista 64 Service Pack 1
Drivers: Motherboard bios: 0602, Catalyst 8.10, MB chipset 3.0.642.0

Crysis Warhead: DX10 high, shaders very high, 1920x1200x32, AA off

Results:

Average:47fps
Max: 84fps
Min: 36fps

bye: Dred
 
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It's at least in the same ballpark as i7, which is good.

I fear the much more efficient and flexible i7 will completely dominate though.

Not at all at the prices it's selling at, it's the mainstream Nehalem chips that will show who will win this round, i'm just hoping to get a good deal no matter which company i choose to go with, so far it's looking like it's AMD as there's no real reason to go for Nehalem with limited gaming boosts. Going from my dualcore to any quad core will be a huge boost no matter what.
 
How is i7 more "efficient"?

indeed both are 45nm, the little info we have on overclocking suggest deneb will be a good 4ghz on air maybe and higher on water... with the extreme denebs priced at $300 ish.. can only be good if everything holds true

until we get some real and more benchmarks is all a bit of guesstimation.. but AMD look like they might have some good CPU thats got to be good news whoever you are.. lets not start bashing until we see some real results
 
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im having a good old wait until both prove their worth irl

i want to read forums and make my decision based on peoples experiences with them both
 
yeap definatly need some more leaked benchies :)

Its looking impressive regardless, Core i7 is tempting but the only 40% boost over Core2duo I see is in software/apps in games similar.

This is where AMD can step in....
 
And lets remember that benchmark is DDR2 AM2+ CPU, let's see what AMD do with their AM3 DDR3 setup :)
 
How is i7 more "efficient"?
Fully static CMOS design. This has eradicated the use of high speed logic, which uses up a relatively large amount of power for the same effect.
These are replaced with more parallelised logic, which are larger and slower but more numerous. This still results in a net reduction in power consumption in most situations.

This increase in logic forced the engineer's hand on the touchy subject of cache, which has been the sticking point for many arguments around the community.
This means that in some situations the chip performs less than optimally (3D games being a key example) when compared to the previous chips.

Hyperthreading this time around has been implemented better than on the Netburst architecture. When an application does not benefit, it simply doesn't influence power consumption, but when it does it offers a significant extra pathway of performance and (a relatively small) increase in power consumption.

With Nehalem, Intel is also introducing a technology that it calls "power gating." Traditionally, Intel has been able shut down an unused core by cutting its active power, but even though it's in a sleep state, that core is still dissipating plenty of power because of leakage current. Intel's power gating technique involves a new transistor design, and it lets Intel cut the leakage current, as well, so that the sleeping core's power dissipation drops to near zero.
When one or more of the cores on a Nehalem chip are powered down, the processor can divert extra power to the cores that are in use by increasing their clockspeed and voltage. This gives the active cores extra performance headroom while permitting the overall processor to remain in the same power envelope.

Not to mention the PCU and all the added Micro Op goodness that provides, you're looking at a significantly more efficient chip. :o
 
Fully static CMOS design. This has eradicated the use of high speed logic, which uses up a relatively large amount of power for the same effect.
These are replaced with more parallelised logic, which are larger and slower but more numerous. This still results in a net reduction in power consumption in most situations.

This increase in logic forced the engineer's hand on the touchy subject of cache, which has been the sticking point for many arguments around the community.
This means that in some situations the chip performs less than optimally (3D games being a key example) when compared to the previous chips.

Hyperthreading this time around has been implemented better than on the Netburst architecture. When an application does not benefit, it simply doesn't influence power consumption, but when it does it offers a significant extra pathway of performance and (a relatively small) increase in power consumption.

With Nehalem, Intel is also introducing a technology that it calls "power gating." Traditionally, Intel has been able shut down an unused core by cutting its active power, but even though it's in a sleep state, that core is still dissipating plenty of power because of leakage current. Intel's power gating technique involves a new transistor design, and it lets Intel cut the leakage current, as well, so that the sleeping core's power dissipation drops to near zero.
When one or more of the cores on a Nehalem chip are powered down, the processor can divert extra power to the cores that are in use by increasing their clockspeed and voltage. This gives the active cores extra performance headroom while permitting the overall processor to remain in the same power envelope.

Not to mention the PCU and all the added Micro Op goodness that provides, you're looking at a significantly more efficient chip. :o

Yes, but given how AMD was in the lead regarding power usage before hand, I'm not sure all this puts Intel ahead of AMD on that, especially since I'm sure AMD have some nifty tricks up their sleeve too.
 
I dont care about saving £10 a year or whatever it is, i just want a great performing nicely priced CPU.. and if it can do that especially in games then im sure ill get one of these over an i7
 
Evidence be damned, I think this processor will use so little power it defies the second law of thermodynamics!

These benchmarks are essentially useless, they may as well be plucked from the ether.
Until there are side by side comparisons, there's no point even discussing it. :o
 
i just want a great performing nicely priced CPU.. and if it can do that especially in games then im sure ill get one of these over an i7

I'm sure you're not alone in that, I'm awaiting this processor with much interest also. This is a great chance for AMD to win back some marketshare as well as hearts and minds.
 
At least looking at the new CPUs there seems to be a nice divide between people, and not only AMD/Intel fanboys, but the general consumer that will go for whichever CPU based on actual performance.

Should make for some interesting results when they are fully released.
 
Guys, new benchmarks just in!
Sorry I couldn't get any screenshots but I was just making it up in Paint, but rest assured it's 100% true!

phenomgraphtrueek0.jpg

That's like 1.21 jiggawatts faster!
 
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