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1st Ryzen - Overclocking etc.

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Hi, new laptop, Lenovo Legion wih the 5800H. First time with this chip manufdacturer and a gaming laptop. I cannot work out how to begin overclocking. Nothing in BIOS and Ryzen software has nothing. Is this cpu even able to overclock?

Thanks
 
I don't know the laptop, but generally laptops have much harder time keeping things cool and causing cpu/gpu to throttle back even on stock settings.
 
I wouldn't bother, the chip will turbo to a high frequency for as long as it can stay cool anyway. Overclocking will probably get you worse performajce as it will thermal throttle.

Theres a reason why overclocking is typically done with bigass air coolers and water coolers :)
 
Ryzen controller software lets you do some basic overclocking by changing the power limits etc although I found this barely worthwhile on my 4500u laptop and I'm not sure the 5000 series of chips is supported as yet.
 
Am looking at a 5900 but I am wondering if its such a leading CPU, it there any point in overclocking it by even 20%?
 
I don't know the laptop, but generally laptops have much harder time keeping things cool and causing cpu/gpu to throttle back even on stock settings.

I wouldn't bother, the chip will turbo to a high frequency for as long as it can stay cool anyway. Overclocking will probably get you worse performajce as it will thermal throttle.

Theres a reason why overclocking is typically done with bigass air coolers and water coolers :)

Agree with the above, I'd leave it alone.
 
I had never thought about overclocking a laptop, if anything i assume you would want to push more juice into the gpu.

I guess you could try and install afterburner overclocking software and see if it gets you any more juice out of your machine. Got to admit laptops do give more headroom for thermals than i expected, i don't know how this holds out in long terms.
 
I had never thought about overclocking a laptop, if anything i assume you would want to push more juice into the gpu.

I guess you could try and install afterburner overclocking software and see if it gets you any more juice out of your machine. Got to admit laptops do give more headroom for thermals than i expected, i don't know how this holds out in long terms.

In the case of the Dell XPS15 I had, running the GPU higher resulted in the CPU temps raising which finally resulted in them both throttling back. To be fair that laptop with plagued with thermal issues and one bios update gimped the GPU and the next the CPU to try and keep things cool.
 
Hi, new laptop, Lenovo Legion wih the 5800H. First time with this chip manufdacturer and a gaming laptop. I cannot work out how to begin overclocking. Nothing in BIOS and Ryzen software has nothing. Is this cpu even able to overclock?

Thanks

Often laptops come shipping with a fairly restrictive bios, but if you're able to undervolt the cpu/gpu and keep it stable I would expect you'd get more performance as you will introduce thermal headroom. In my experience voltage is a major contributor to heat, much more so than frequency.

With laptops the cooling is rarely good enough to allow the components to run at their maximum potential indefinitely, so it's all about reducing the heat or improving the cooling. Running my laptop on a hard, flat, surface rather than a desk mat has netted me better gains than any amount of overclocking.

//edit: check out AMD Clocktuner and Ryzen Master as options for windows control of voltage
 
Laptops will nearly always be restricted by thermals due to the fact everything is jammed into a tiny space with weak cooling solutions. The result is they are probably running close to the limits anyway, making heavy use of turbo up/down for both frequency and voltage to balance performance and temps.

In years gone by when there wasn't built in turbo functionality there was probably something to be gained but I wouldn't bother as it's probably close to a zero sum game; you get the CPU to run faster when idle but then as soon as you put it under heavy load it probably has to throttle back anyway.
 
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