1T and 2T

benjo · 13 Jul 2006 at 11:35

Morning

I'm having trouble running Flash related apps. I can't install it basically. But when it does install. Anything i run related to flash crashs my PC. So that means no google video and no youtube.

I've been told it's a common problem running in 1T. So my question to you folks is whats the catch with running back at 2T? My ram is Kingston Value if that makes any difference.

Thanks

Jay_t · 13 Jul 2006 at 12:44

Its hard to say without seeing your components listed in a sig, but there are a few factors to take into account here. To run with stability at 1t you usually need: to not be running 4 sticks of ram, a high quality motherboard, high quality memory, the latest bios and a little luck.

The only catch with running at 2t is a slight loss of performance.

benjo · 13 Jul 2006 at 13:25

Hmm ok. My specs are;

A64 3700 @ 2.7
Asrock 939 Dualsata2 (latest bios)
1024mb Kingston value PC3200 (2x 512)

So what kind of performance decrease are we talking about here? Is it hugely noticeable?

benjo · 13 Jul 2006 at 19:30

Bump

Cyber-Mav · 13 Jul 2006 at 21:53

1T does not work properly on the asrock board. it is a very common problem.

Reaps^ · 13 Jul 2006 at 23:59

you wont notice the speed decrease!

benjo · 14 Jul 2006 at 00:00

Reaps^ said:
you wont notice the speed decrease!

Thats what i wanted to hear!

*goes off changing back to 2T*

Cyber-Mav · 14 Jul 2006 at 00:01

there is a big difference in memory bandwidth going from 1t to 2t.
its a bigger difference that running ram at 2-2-2-5 to 3-3-3-10.

pointless having fast ram if you can;t run it at 1t command rate. best to do all you can to see if you can make it work at 1t.

Naffa · 14 Jul 2006 at 01:04

Pointless posting that if he doesn't have particularly fast memory

Minstadave · 14 Jul 2006 at 02:18

benjo said:
Thats what i wanted to hear!

*goes off changing back to 2T*

1T - 2T gives you a 2-3% hit in gaming performance, nothing huge but its there.

As said, your mobo isn't a big fan of running 1T anyway, so you'll be happy at 2T.

benjo · 14 Jul 2006 at 09:28

Ok, i'll try it and see what its like

Cyber-Mav · 14 Jul 2006 at 20:47

super pi showed the largest difference to me when testing 1t and 2t, however i was never stable at 1t even with 2 sticks of ram.

benjo · 14 Jul 2006 at 22:22

Well i just put it back to 2T. Stable now

I even managed 2.86 Ghz out of my 3700

Stock volts aswell

quadboi · 15 Jul 2006 at 10:44

2.8 is nice just from stocvk voltage the 1T works fine on my asrock, but I guess I have cheaper crucial ram

1T dropped 3/4 seconds off my super pi

Cyber-Mav · 15 Jul 2006 at 12:43

hey benjo your overclock is not too shabby. try and push higher like me, you may be able to get to 2.9ghz at below stock volts

wish this board allowed for a higher htt im sure i could take this cpu over 3ghz.

benjo · 15 Jul 2006 at 12:45

Well i tried 2.9 but it froze

So i put the ram on a 133 divider to make sure it wasnt the ram overclocking too much but there was an error. So 2.87 is the max it can take on stock volts

Really tempted to do the vcore mod, but i think 2.8 is fine for now

Cyber-Mav · 15 Jul 2006 at 12:48

stock volts? why do you need to to a vmod? stock voltage for that cpu is 1.4v you can take the voltage on the asrock board up to 1.45v. that shoudl be more than enough to allow you to get a higher overclock. i would prefer not to go over 1.45v that way temps still stay low.

benjo · 15 Jul 2006 at 13:08

With my board the stock voltage was 1.45 :confused:

Cyber-Mav · 15 Jul 2006 at 13:14

odd, for me and all the other people i know the stock voltage is 1.40v and it shows in the bios the max available vcore to be 1.45v.

you sure your not mistaking the max vcore limit number for your actual vcore amount?

what does cpuz say?