2.0T FSI Engine??
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Soldato
47mpg my arse. Maybe in a test lab, you'll get mid-30s in the real world. I doubt even the 170bhp TDI would average 47mpg unless it sat on a Motorway at 65 all day.
No manufacturer could get away with claiming 47 if it only did 30-35 real world, they are consistently 10% out, but rarely much more than that. A 170Tdi would easily return 47mpg even driven at 80mph....
If you know better why ask?
Most quoted fuel economy figures from recent years are hugely wrong as manufacturers learn how to score highly at the EU tests and not in the real world.
I've had numerous new and nearly new 2 litre diesel BMW's and despite driving some of them very carefully on exclusive motorway trips only managed to acheive the URBAN quoted mpg figure on a Motorway trip! The extra urban figure was a pipe dream I was, in one car, a staggering 20mpg away from.
They certainly would, providing the testing had been done as per the EU standards. It's happening more and more with the various emissions reduction technology giving figures that you'll never see in the real world.
Soldato
Personal experience of a Leon FR indicates otherwise.
Caporegime
yes they do
they dont "claim" it gets 47mpg. They put the car through a set test. this is several miles at xmph, followed by stopping x many times etc.. its a set industry standard test and is done by a 3rd party. Knowing this, manufacturers create start/stop systems to maximise efficient in this test.
So when the third party tests it, they get 47mpg. But the real world is nothing like the ultra rigid test that they use to measure mpg, so in the real world you dont get anything like the claimed MPG.
You used to be able to, untill they came up with the technology to maximise efficient in the tests, like BMW efficient dynamics.
I dont want a brand new BMW, and the car is nearly 5 years old, so by your own words Fox surely i can use it as a rough guide -10 or 15%???
Magicboy - ive managed to exceed 47mpg with a 170bhp TDi, and with a 130bhp Tdi and i do 30K just to work and back every year!
Magicboy - ive managed to exceed 47mpg with a 170bhp TDi, and with a 130bhp Tdi and i do 30K just to work and back every year!
Veering back (somewhat) to the topic, the 2.0T FSI is not the most efficient engine I've ever owned. My old S3 (not exactly the same engine as the 2.0T with 200bhp admittedly) used more fuel than my R36 does for the same journeys in the vast majority of situations.
You aren't going to see anywhere near 47mpg, even at a cruise, unless you're pulling it on a rope.
You aren't going to see anywhere near 47mpg, even at a cruise, unless you're pulling it on a rope.
Way to completely miss the point. I'm beginning to remember why I went through a phase of not bothering to reply when it was you
This thread seems pointless if you are just going to argue at us when we give you the opinions and information you've asked for. Go and buy a 2.0T Audi and then you can come back and tell us how it gets nearly 50mpg on your commute.
Soldato
I'm well aware of the 130bhp TDI - see sig. A colleague swapped his 130 bhp TDI Ibiza in for the Leon and he's struggling to beat 40mpg average. Distance motorway work is better, but he doesn't get 47mpg with the cruise set to 80.
The 2.0T FSI and the older 1.8 20VT's are very efficient for petrol engines and give good economy at a cruise. If it did 47mpg why is TDI a bigger seller?
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Thank you dolph - very handy as you have some real world experience rather than speculative....er...talk.
Fox - sorry if ytou dont like it buy everyone "argues" on points in posts, its what makes it an internet forum. crap like a 170bhp diesel wont do 47mpg, i KNOW it will, ive done it! I appreciate some members might have more knowledge than others (such as yourself, very knowledgable) but others are simply guessing and i dont want guesses, i want REAL info, such as that which i will gain from driving one myself too
Fox - sorry if ytou dont like it buy everyone "argues" on points in posts, its what makes it an internet forum. crap like a 170bhp diesel wont do 47mpg, i KNOW it will, ive done it! I appreciate some members might have more knowledge than others (such as yourself, very knowledgable) but others are simply guessing and i dont want guesses, i want REAL info, such as that which i will gain from driving one myself too
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My long term average over 42k in a 2L TFSI Golf is between 32-34mpg, you can get 40mpg out of it if you sit at a steady 70mph for a long period. The new engine in the MK6 Golf is more efficient and my work colleagues is averaging 37 mpg which isn't that far off the diesel.
Caporegime
with a turbocharged 2.0 four i expect youi'll only be seeing anywhere near 40mpg on a steady cruise. Id expect your real world average mpg to be nearer 30 than 40.
*edit* cracking guess, "if i do say so myself", just seen the post above
*edit* cracking guess, "if i do say so myself", just seen the post above
I had an Audi A3 2.0tfsi quattro. The engine is a great engine from a driving point of view but Audi certainly in the case of my A3 seem to fit the six speed box with pretty close ratios, so sixth gear which IMO should have been a cruising gear was really close to 5th. That ment on a motorway at 80-90mph the car would just about manage 30mpg with me and two others in it. Really with ratios that close they should have stayed with a 5 speed box as it would have made very little difference. Now you have to factor in my A3 was pretty heavy and had awd losses but the engine doesnt seem economical in any car its fitted in, certainly not compared to the claimed figures anyway.