2.0T FSI Engine??

[Howard]

I'm sure if you drive along in top gear at 55-65mph you'll achieve 47mpg. I'm also sure that if you mix some other types of driving in with that, the average will soon drop

 

[clv101]

If you know better why ask?

Most quoted fuel economy figures from recent years are hugely wrong as manufacturers learn how to score highly at the EU tests and not in the real world.

I've had numerous new and nearly new 2 litre diesel BMW's and despite driving some of them very carefully on exclusive motorway trips only managed to acheive the URBAN quoted mpg figure on a Motorway trip! The extra urban figure was a pipe dream I was, in one car, a staggering 20mpg away from.

Maybe that's a BMW problem then!

I do manage to hit the book figures for my diesel Skoda. Did a 249 mile drive just today and returned 63mpg. The extra urban book figure is 67.3mpg, I had about 20 miles of roundabout-stewed A-roads and about half the motorway was done at 70-80, the other half at 50ish due to traffic.

In the past I've exceeded that 67.3mpg book figure.

 

[[TW]Fox]

In a car with an engine introduced in what, 1999? My point exactly clv

 

[Conanius]

The golf gti I drove the other day had one. Smooth, no lag but felt like it would lve a better set of lungs, exhaust and remap. No real soul with regards to engine note

 

[Dr Who]

Best I ever averaged on a run in my Golf GTI was 39mpg, I am sure if you drove it at a constant 60mph on a motorway and was very frugal in terms of accelerator useage, you MAY manage 47mpg, but there is no way you will average it, much closer to 30mpg average with mixed driving.

As a comparison, I can average 69mpg on our 2.0 TDI A3 fairly consistently mix of town/country/m'way.

 

[v0n]

There are two tfsis across VAG lineup:
2.0 EA113 belt driven TFSI
1.8/2.0 chain driven EA888 called TSI in VW's and TFSI in Audi/Skoda lineup.

The EA888 engine was introduced in March 2008, but vag still used EA113 in 2009 and might still use it for a while, the 266bhp GTI R for example is based on old EA113 not EA888.

EA113 gained some notoriety in countries with bad fuel and it is commonly suggested that it should be run on 98RON in UK as our supermarket 95RON is not close enough to manufacturer suggested German super blaifrei 95RON. There are also reports of early cam follower problems, especially in US although those could be caused by sub pars oils outside VW spec.

 

[Eriedor]

I run the 2.0 TFSI in a leon FR.

Prior to remapping I'd average low-mid 30's on a normal run and high 20's on a more speedy run.

After remap i reckon I've lost a few mpg but deffintely worth the extra punch on boost.

The TDI 170 seems to be much more popular where available, i just couldn't stand the noise.

 

[aproctor]

One of the main reasons such high mpg figures are quoted is to get a lower tax bracket.

Also Fox wasn't the BMW you had such terrible mpg in sub 1000 miles i.e. not broken in?

 

[Moeks]

Looking at some of these numbers, makes the real world figures of some V8's seem, well not so bad really, considering what you get and how much extra wight they are typically hauling around.

I used to get around 47-50mpg in my Leon TDI 130, so seeing that in a 2.0l turbo-charged petrol engine, I very much doubt it.

 

[[TW]Fox]

Also Fox wasn't the BMW you had such terrible mpg in sub 1000 miles i.e. not broken in?

The 118d had 1300 miles on it, the 120d had 3 miles on it and the 320d had 900 miles on it.

 

[wez130]

I have the 20.TFSi in my A3, i probably average between 32 for everyday driving and i'll get 40mpg on a decent motorway run, even on a hoon (motors meet) a 60mile drive only cost me under £20 (17litres?) which, as the north yorkshire moors motors meet people will know, is worth every penny , and that was foot to the floor permanently.

 

[Slime101]

The 118d had 1300 miles on it, the 120d had 3 miles on it and the 320d had 900 miles on it.

So no surprise they performed so badly then, they all needed another 20K at least to even start to return decent economy.

 

[iaind]

47mpg my arse. Maybe in a test lab, you'll get mid-30s in the real world. I doubt even the 170bhp TDI would average 47mpg unless it sat on a Motorway at 65 all day.

You'd be surprised, the 2.0 TDI is pretty good at returning decent economy even when driven hard.

A friend has a Golf 140 and averages close to 50mpg, dad has an A6 170 with a CVT gearbox and is averaging low 40s

 

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So no surprise they performed so badly then, they all needed another 20K at least to even start to return decent economy.

And why on earth would that 20k+ matter?

 

[Matt82]

engines "loosen" up

my gf's little fiesta became noticably more economical once it went past 25k miles and then (suprisingly) became noticably "quicker" once it went past 30k miles!

 

[spaz]

Surely for these economy tests that are carried out though they're on virtually brand new cars? So the figures they get you should be able to get on your similarly brand new car and not have to wait possibly a year or two to reach the mileage in order to get near what they're quoting?

 

[[TW]Fox]

So no surprise they performed so badly then, they all needed another 20K at least to even start to return decent economy.

Are you telling me BMW submitted a 30,000 mile car for testing?

Even if engines to 'loosen up' its still unacceptable. Pay £25k for a brand new 320d, get crap economy. Buy it 3 years later with 40k on it for half the price and get better economy

 

[iaind]

They're also conducted under very sterile, artificial circumstances and the manufacturers know how to get the best out of the tests

 

[Matt82]

Are you telling me BMW submitted a 30,000 mile car for testing?

Even if engines to 'loosen up' its still unacceptable. Pay £25k for a brand new 320d, get crap economy. Buy it 3 years later with 40k on it for half the price and get better economy

40k is high mileage though tbh

 

[merlin]

I can get the official MPG with my 325d.