2.0T FSI Engine??

Dolph said:
You'd never catch me driving at 60mph the whole time, have you seen the average quality of driving from people who do so? I want to be as far away from those tailgaiting, book reading, makeup applying muppets who think they are safe because they aren't speeding as is possible.
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Dolph, if this is what you tell yourself so you have an excuse to drive fast, it doesn't make it a fact. Sure there are a few people like that, but no worse than the odd sandwich eating, mobile phone using, speeding, tailgater in the other 2 lanes.

;)
 
mjt said:
how close do you have to get to really get in the slipstream though?
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Bump. :)

I suppose stopping distances aren't as much of a concern if you're tailgating a lorry? As in you're almost certainly going to be able to brake faster than it as long as you make sure you're not going to be distracted by anything (e.g. passenger who can change the radio).
 
[TW]Fox;15612320 said:
If you know better why ask?

Most quoted fuel economy figures from recent years are hugely wrong as manufacturers learn how to score highly at the EU tests and not in the real world.

I've had numerous new and nearly new 2 litre diesel BMW's and despite driving some of them very carefully on exclusive motorway trips only managed to acheive the URBAN quoted mpg figure on a Motorway trip! The extra urban figure was a pipe dream I was, in one car, a staggering 20mpg away from.
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Not doubting your thouroughness - just interests me, would you check trye pressure before doing this?
 
miniyazz said:
Bump. :)

I suppose stopping distances aren't as much of a concern if you're tailgating a lorry? As in you're almost certainly going to be able to brake faster than it as long as you make sure you're not going to be distracted by anything (e.g. passenger who can change the radio).
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The disturbed air wake behind a lorry is pretty big tbh. I sit pretty much the distance most people would following something. The closer you get the lower the air pressure in that region so you gain MPG but increase your risk of something happening. The guy who had the car before me said he used to sit quite close but was following a big lorry when it moved out to overtake a tractor doing 20mph. He didnt have a lot of time to react and was very lucky!

I dont tailgate or 'draft' lorries.rarely go slow enough to. I also notice when its busy and you sit in traffic you seem to move along in a column of moving air that makes the instant MPG sit a bit higher than it usually would.
 
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Dr Who said:
Dolph, if this is what you tell yourself so you have an excuse to drive fast, it doesn't make it a fact. Sure there are a few people like that, but no worse than the odd sandwich eating, mobile phone using, speeding, tailgater in the other 2 lanes.

;)
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No, this is what I see every time I'm on a dual carriageway or motorway. The quality of driving by those doing 60mph, on average, is much, much worse than the quality of the driving of those doing 80mph.

YMMV of course.
 
and if ive got a plum sat on my rear bumper at 80 odd, i can just go faster :D

i do wish i had the skill/discipline to drive at economic speeds
 
my octavia will average 40/41 mpg on a run from newcastle to aberdeen

around town it will be 25-30

I have never seen it close to 47mpg...either in my previous mk2 or in the facelift I have with the newer tsi engine
 
Dolph said:
No, this is what I see every time I'm on a dual carriageway or motorway. The quality of driving by those doing 60mph, on average, is much, much worse than the quality of the driving of those doing 80mph.

YMMV of course.
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I think you are right to a degree, that some people do slow down to do other tasks such as answer the mobile, look at a map book, apply make up, but these are often the same people that usually drive at 80mph+ "they feel safer and pay less attention at lower speeds" is something we all have to contend with. However, knowing everyone else is a pillock is the first step to driving defensively, and that knowledge is power.

Whatever you may think about safety, the fact is, an accident at 60 will result in a lot less dmage than at 80. You have more observation time at 60mph and can take in more about the drivers around you IF you use that time effectively and dont lay back and think you are safe.

I think only something like 3-4% of accidents involving injury occur on motorways, they are already the safest roads to travel on. Statistically you are way less likely to be injured in an accident on a motorway at 60mph than you are at any speed on other types of roads.

I think we can all point out examples of bad road behaviour to prove our points or disprove each others, however, neither of us can argue the raw data or the physics involved with a crash at the 2 relative speeds.

You as an aware driver, I am confident will spot the issues surrounding you and be able to take action in plenty of time and laugh them off. Others will be too busy on their hands free, eating a pie, balancing a coffee while they look for something to write on.

;)
 
FTM said:
I have never seen it close to 47mpg...either in my previous mk2 or in the facelift I have with the newer tsi engine
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In fairness, all that tells us is you don't drive all the time in a fashion that is compatible with the way fuel consumption tests are conducted.

If you go look at the standards that are applied to achieve an extra urban fuel consumption test you will see why, but as previously stated a few pages back, some can achieve the figures and more over specific periods, but you will NEVER achieve this as an average over a long period, too many other types of driving will impact on the overall average.

You are way more likely to achieve the combined figure of 35.3
 
Jonnycoupe said:
No one drives in a perfectly straightline.

There you go, covers it pretty well. :p
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Ah I love it when people miss the sarcasm and feel the need to prove it...

The reason I was sarcastic in the first place is that Fox took one line of my post and ignored the fact that I said about the combined figure being more representative.

Nobody is ever going to drive in extra urban conditions all the time, but they may achieve that on some journeys, so expecting to see an average of 47mpg over a tank full is generally unrealistic.
 
Dr Who said:
Nobody is ever going to drive in extra urban conditions all the time, but they may achieve that on some journeys, so expecting to see an average of 47mpg over a tank full is generally unrealistic.
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Wasn't that my exact point in the first place, given I was disputing the 47mpg out of a 2.0TFSI?!
 
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