2.1 speakers, which set?

james.miller · 4 Mar 2006 at 17:10

!n$oMniA said:

that shows that it's a full 30db down at 20hz compared to 80hz. you think that's adiquate? and do you think comparing the in room response of the 2300 sub to the free-air response of the 12" eminence sub (fs of 39hz. TOO high) that's designed for pro use (read: not high quality home theatre) is adiquate also? :rolleyes:

http://www.pulseonline.com/eminence41.htm

OMEGA PRO 12
For all high power applications including PA Cabs & Bass Guitar Cabs.

great. let's compare an 8" pc sub and a 12" bass guitar sub and try to get any meaningful results :confused:

what you think of this?

15" mutant subwoofer.£45 + the cost of building the mdf box. My 12" lightning audio sub is even flatter. I'll say it now though that is only a free air response of the box, it is not measured in the room (which in my room there is a healthy boost at 30hz) im not paying £40 for a decent mic to satify your needs

!n$oMniA · 4 Mar 2006 at 17:37

that graph is under a constant voltage amplitude because youve got a frequency response that is constantly on the reference line. It will only change when it comes across something it cant replicate, i think i can begin to see it sloping at 20Hz. Both of the above graphs use sound level amplitude constant therefore the changes in the response curve which i think is more useful to see.

Also import to consider is that the z-2300 also represents the satelite speakers and they are going to offer nothing at 20 hz whilst they will at 1000hz. Therefore it would make sense that there is going to be a higher variation on the scale.

I do not understand why you are trying to compare these beasts of subwoofers with a 8inch sub desinged for PC use?? There out of its league and im not trying to argue that at all. Im saying that THX certification means quite a lot if you look at the specification and that the sub can offer noise at 20Hz, distortion free, well it is another matter.

james.miller · 4 Mar 2006 at 17:47

!n$oMniA said:
that graph is under a constant voltage amplitude because youve got a frequency response that is constantly on the reference line. It will only change when it comes across something it cant replicate, i think i can begin to see it sloping at 20Hz. Both of the above graphs use sound level amplitude constant therefore the changes in the response curve which i think is more useful to see.

its still 30db down whatever way you look at that curve.

Also import to consider is that the z-2300 also represents the satelite speakers and they are going to offer nothing at 20 hz whilst they will at 1000hz. Therefore it would make sense that there is going to be a higher variation on the scale.

variation yes, but the sat's dont handle 20hz at all do they? that's all down to the sub which is the topic of this discussion.

I do not understand why you are trying to compare these beasts of subwoofers with a 8inch sub desinged for PC use?? There out of its league and im not trying to argue that at all. Im saying that THX certification means quite a lot if you look at the specification and that the sub can offer noise at 20Hz, distortion free, well it is another matter.

Your the one who compared them when you tried to tell us what THX means. You're the one who compared the z2300 to a 12" PA sub. We're are saying THX for HT and THX for pc speakers are nothing a like. You are arguing the other way, not us

and once again, those specifications do not apply to pc speakers!

here's the plotted responce graph of that omega pro btw

Not at all suprising concidering its intended use.

I am also by no means saying that non-THX certified speakers are no good. That would be a ridiculous thing to say. I also totally agree that any high-fidelity system would probably make any PC sound system look emarressed.

That's taken from earlier. They do, and what you have to remember is.....that 15" mutant or my 12" lightning audio are bearly aproaching the THX standard, and look at those plots. bearly aproaching it and destroying anything you can buy for your pc

valerian · 13 Mar 2006 at 19:55

ive bought creative 2.1 and speedlink 2.1 and for cheapos they both sound good imo

sniper2006 · 14 Mar 2006 at 09:15

Brum Man said:
Well, seeing as the Aego M's are the same price they can be beaten, by the Aegos.

In your opinion.

sniper2006 · 14 Mar 2006 at 09:20

Agent, reading through all this ******** it seems they're missing the point by a mile! Its ok to quote all this scientific ********, and thats what it is, just ********! To simplify an answer to your original question.... Spend around £100 on a brand name system and you wont be disappointed. Get a THX if you can (contrary to certain beliefs) it does make a difference to the quality of the system.

james.miller · 14 Mar 2006 at 09:22

sniper2006 said:
Agent, reading through all this ***** it seems they're missing the point by a mile! Its ok to quote all this scientific *****, and thats what it is, just *****! To simplify an answer to your original question.... Spend around £100 on a brand name system and you wont be disappointed. Get a THX if you can (contrary to certain beliefs) it does make a difference to the quality of the system.

rules the forum rules noobie. no swearing on these boards. 3 times one one post :rolleyes:

and contrary to certain noobie beliefs, THX means sod all. let it die already.

sniper2006 · 14 Mar 2006 at 09:44

james.miller said:
rules the forum rules noobie. no swearing on these boards. 3 times one one post

Did I really say ********? Oops! What I meant to put was 'nonsense'

If we remove all the scientific ******** from this thread does it really matter one way or the other? These figures are achieved using the best possible professional equipment, you will never, ever, achieve these standards using 'consumer' products. Agent will be more than happy with any higher end branded system at the end of the day, anything else will go unnoticed.

james.miller · 14 Mar 2006 at 09:47

sniper2006 said:
Did I really say Bull****? Oops! What I meant to put was 'nonsense'

If we remove all the scientific bul.....*cough* I mean nonsense from this thread does it really matter one way or the other? These figures are achieved using the best possible professional equipment, you will never, ever, achieve these standards using 'consumer' products. Agent will be more than happy with any higher end branded system at the end of the day, anything else will go unnoticed.

do you mean the proper THX standards? if you do then yeah, i gree with you. that's what we're saying.

you will never, ever, achieve these standards using 'consumer' products.

sniper2006 · 14 Mar 2006 at 09:56

james.miller said:
do you mean the proper THX standards? if you do then yeah, i gree with you. that's what we're saying.

I mean any technical blurb that you see with any speaker system like the 'signal to noise ratio' is less than this and the system response is this many Hz to that many Khz....it just aint gonna happen at home. So Agent need not concern himself too much with any of the technical blurb in this thread. As for what system is better than another, it really boils down to personal choice otherwise we'd all own the same brand.