20 vs 22

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Samsung SM-206BW 20" Widescreen LCD Monitor £170.36

vs

Samsung SM-223BW 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Glossy Black £199.74

I need some help undrestanding this differences between these two sizes. I always thought bigger was better?

PURELY IN TERMS OF GAMING (CSS/BF2) AND NOT FOR WATCHING MOVIES
 
Same res but larger pixels.

Pixel Pitch (mm) 0.258 x 0.258 on 20" viewable vs 0.276 x 0.276 on 21.6" viewable

Side by side the smaller size would appear sharper - some people notice, some aren't bothered (like me).
 
Acers are pretty bad in general though.

Anyway, as I understand it the 20" is sharper for gaming but if you do fancy some movie/tv watching mixed in then the 22" will be the best bet.
 
Jihad said:
Acers are pretty bad in general though.

Anyway, as I understand it the 20" is sharper for gaming but if you do fancy some movie/tv watching mixed in then the 22" will be the best bet.
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not really ive already got a samsung le32r74

i will probably just get a 22"
 
Actually my acer AL1716 - 17" model has far better viewing angles than the 226bw
the acer states 150/150 the 226bw 160/160 go figure seems someone lies about their viewing angles.
 
Jihad said:
Acers are pretty bad in general though.

Anyway, as I understand it the 20" is sharper for gaming but if you do fancy some movie/tv watching mixed in then the 22" will be the best bet.
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i doubt anyone would really notice any real difference in sharpness due to the pixel pitch when gaming on a 20" vs 22" screen tbh. In windows, text is smaller and you can tell, but in gaming, it's probably not a real issue. What you may find is that the extra size of a 22" will add a feeling of immersion to games, and it will also afford you a little more room to sit further back from the screen if you wanted to. I'd say the SM226BW would be a better choice over the SM206BW here
 
What is more difficult is the decsion of the SM226BW or the 223BW on This Week Only £187.99 Inc. VAT or Samsung SM-226BW 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Glossy Black £227......given the rep of the SM-226Bw I would think the obvious choice is the 223BW although we are yet to understand the full nature of its panel origins (could be a lottery still just like the 226) ?

and to throw everything in the air Gibbo has slahed the price of the Samsung SM-2032BW Pebble 20" Widescreen to £176:eek:


Baddass.......if ever we needed the voice of reason....it is now !:cool:

20"

Samsung SM-2032BW Pebble 20" Widescreen to £176
Response = 2ms
Likely to suffer less than the 226 in panel quality issues ?

Or

or 22"

223BW on This Week Only £187.99 Inc. VAT
response = 5ms
Different panel specs than the 226.....can't find reviews of this one yet though.

Samsung SM-226BW 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Glossy Black £227
Response =2ms
** But has had a chequred history e.g panel lottery

:confused: its all too much !!!!

ARGGGHHHHH !!!!
 
The pebbles are meant to be guaranteed Samsung panels. Check with Gibbo cause he was going to verify that on a thread on here but not sure if he came back with an answer.

If it is a Samung panel, that would be the one I go for.
 
haha, a dilema indeed. This is how i would look at it:

Samsung SM2032BW - 20"WS TN Film panel with RTC technology offering 2ms G2G response time. £176 is quite a good price. I believe the SM2032GW offers the exact same spec and is supposed to feature a panel frmo CPT...Good price, and RTC will offer improved responsiveness compared with non-overdriven panels. So it has the edge over 5ms rated 20"WS TN Film models.

Samsung SM223BW - £188, 5ms TN Film panel. Samsung claimed that the new model would only feature Samsung TN Film panels, and would not suffer from the 'lottery' of the SM226BW. However, that's yet to be really confirmed, only reported a little while ago (link). At the same time, Samsung claimed they will now supply the SM226BW with Samsung panels, since their stock has caught up with demand....no longer do they need to use CMO/AUO panels (supposedly). However,this model doesn't feature overdrive /RTC technology and so responsiveness in practice is likely to be behind that of the SM2032BW. It is certainly behind that of the SM226BW which is the same panel (in theory, or near enough even with the lottery) where RTC was added to boost grey to grey transitions. It's a good price though at £188

Samsung SM226BW - I'd say there's probably an equal chance that these now all use Samsung panels as there is that the SM223BW uses them. I would imagine either Samsung have the panel stock of they don't. As such, i'd look at it like this is the RTC edition of the SM223BW. If you're a serious gamer then you may well benefit from the extra boost of RTC which is evident in practice if you compare a 2ms G2G TN and a 5ms non overdriven TN Film panel. The SM223BW will be more than adequate for most people though, but if you're a serious gamer, this offers an edge.


I'd suggest for gaming, you want to look at one of the 22" models really...i think i would
 
Summed up nicely ;)

I have indeed narrowed it down to one of the 22" screens, but the 226Bw still worries me...if Gibbo, or anyone else for that matter could guarantee a non CMO /AUO panel I would order today....I just feel uneasy about it given the amount of time I will spend in front it and the lack of the possiblility of rectifying the situation if I got a poor performing panel. :(
 
I've just stuck an order in for a 223BW. Personally the larger pixel size on the 22" would swing it for me from a 20". I find high resolutions on large displays harder to see (so prefer 1280x1024 on a 19" than on a 17" screen).

With it being £40 cheaper than the 226BW, with the only difference being 3ms slower response, I think it's a no-brainer (currently on a 17" Dell panel with 20ms response and never notice ghosting on that!).

Sadly I'm not about to take a screwdriver to it when it arrives to confirm the panel type, so we'll have to keep hoping. :)
 
ademcg said:
Summed up nicely ;)

I have indeed narrowed it down to one of the 22" screens, but the 226Bw still worries me...if Gibbo, or anyone else for that matter could guarantee a non CMO /AUO panel I would order today....I just feel uneasy about it given the amount of time I will spend in front it and the lack of the possiblility of rectifying the situation if I got a poor performing panel. :(
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Gibbo won't open one to confirm but see what he has to say about it here:

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17777906
 
just took delivery of my 2007WFP..
very impressed with the quality of the screen..
no dead pixels that i can see, and the viewing angles are fantastic ;D

20" is big enough, i can't see the need for a 22" really, especially when the natural resolutions for both are 1680x1050

also, the Dell has a fantastic array of plugs and connectors on the back, it's very handy indeed
it's also got 4 USB connectors..
 
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ademcg said:
Summed up nicely ;)

I have indeed narrowed it down to one of the 22" screens, but the 226Bw still worries me...if Gibbo, or anyone else for that matter could guarantee a non CMO /AUO panel I would order today....I just feel uneasy about it given the amount of time I will spend in front it and the lack of the possiblility of rectifying the situation if I got a poor performing panel. :(
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there's still a LOT of talk about this panel lottery. What is it that leads you to believe the CMO and AUO versions are so vastly inferior? what aspect of their performance is of concern here?
 
mjt said:
20" is big enough, i can't see the need for a 22" really, especially when the natural resolutions for both are 1680x1050
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That's the attraction for me - the increased pixel size (rather than increased resolution). Items appear larger on the screen on a 22 than a 20, which helps me avoid eye strain.
 
mjt said:
bull****

4 stuck pixels - 2 blue, 1 red 1 green
not happy
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Try the massage method m8 don't be worried or even tap with finger google how to fix stuck pixels give all that a try if no work and it's under 7 days return under the distance selling regulations just make sure you don't mark or scratch anywhere.As consumers we shouldn't tolerate one stuck pixel let alone a dead pixel.If they can't make a fault free product it's not our problem they obviously can as most people don't get any stuck or dead pixels upon arrival of their monitors.It wouldn't surprise me that damage is done to a lot of monitors in transit.I wouldn't put up with 1 stuck pixel let alone that lot.
 
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