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2010 processor discussion.

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Hi, right now I am looking into an overhaul of my pc early next year (processor, motherboard and ram) Currently i'm running a overclocked q6600 and 4gb ram.

So I have been looking at the i7 920 but really whats the point upgrading £500 for 600 mhz and ok it does have a bigger cache but still not worth the money from what I can see.

I am sure many people are in the same boat in this community and want to look at what processors they could buy next year.

So what processors have the community heard about or would suggest is a worthwhile upgrade whilst keeping a good price/ preformance ratio.
 
It's also about achitecture, and the i7 does really well compared to the core series with lower clocks.
A good price/performance cpu would be the i5/Phenom II, but I see AMD's path more upgradable. I could be wrong though >.>
Both have 6 cores coming next year ;)
 
I was going to ask this type of question as well. Planning on ditching my current motherboard + processor next year and going the Intel i7 920 route. The new AMD platform looks iinteresting though.
 
I think thuban is on the current AM3 socket so would provide a decent upgrade path for most.A strong quad now then a hexacore when needed
 
How come they're only going 6 core? Surely the next logical step is 8?

There are 8 core Xeons already after all... (Or so I've heard).
 
Atm the i7 920 is the best upgrade that gives good performance and is affordable. A phenomII would be a small improvement and similar performance can be gained from a Q9550. If upgrading I would go for i5, Turbo mode is great if your green minded and value some quietness and the performance in multi threaded tasks is certainly noticable. Gaming on the other hand can be hit or miss depending on the game and resolution. I suggest going for the Q9xxx and upgrading something else just my .02 Check out benchmarks first tho and then decide. There is a performance boost, but check if your willing to part with £300+ for that boost.

hex core will be on AM3 tho it is possible that it will support DDR3 only. Atm hex core is like DX11, nice to have but can anyone actually use it yet?
 
I'm sure there was? Ah well never mind. :P

If you're reading Mr AMD and Mr Asus, I'd like a new 8 core version of the AMD 6 core that's been planned, I'd i'd like a motherboard that I can mount two of them to, with a pair on Titan Fenrir's on there please!

And some Quad channel ram, enough for 8 sticks. :P
 
I think the 6 core will be handy for people that deal with different types of media but for gamers the extra 2 cores will be pointless as games makers are still fully utilising 4 cores.

The amd processor seems a good choice and as someone mentioned it is likely they will require ddr3 but with that processor to not buy ddr3 would lose some life span of the computer.
 
i dont believe there is 8 core xeons. high end macs and servers use 2 quad core xeons on the same motherboard.

You can get server boards that can take 4x xeon cpus :D I wanted to borrow one of the tigerton setups to set a 3D Marks 06 WR but we can't find a board with x16 PCI-e heh.
 
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Some of the best computers around at the moment are multi socket 6 core AMD cpu's, for price you can't beat them in the server market. The new supercomputer list is also very pro AMD, 4 of the top 5 fastest supercomps in the world are AMD right now, the 5th is Xeon based, but its power comes from using over 5k 4870 cards in the supercomputer so its still basically an AMD comp.

Its not really about CPU power, but how well you can use them.

Personally, I wouldn't be looking to upgrade a Q6600 if it can get anywhere near 3.5Ghz you'll see almost no real world benefit going to any other quad, especially for games. The next next gen stuff, Bulldozer and whatever follows Nehalem might be the time to upgrade, not necessarily straight away either but we'll probably see some of the more Crysis type games out in two years start to really push a quad core and beyond properly.

It depends what you do, considering you have a 3870x2, I'm assuming you do game and thats your primary focus for needing power? A gpu upgrade won't require a CPU upgrade to be worthwhile, a decently clocked Q6600 is more than capable of running any current game with any current GPU setup maxed out, they are/were great great value quads for their time. Upgrade your gpu, maybe up to 8gigs mem, maybe a decent SSD and leave the cpu/mobo for a couple years.

We're very close to moving to a whole new type of system set up tbh, where CPU's are largely Interger whores, with reduced FP power(faster than now, but less FPU power in ratio to the Interger power) then as intergrated gpu's are moved on die, and can be used as a dedicated FPU within the CPU we'll see the new "CPU's" FPU power go through the roof. THe first proper Bulldozers won't have intergrated gpu's, I doubt Intel's high end follow up to Nehalem will have a gpu on die either, because they'll be too big, the following die shrunk versions should bring gpu's on die at which point software/gaming/industry could change quite drastically.

In terms of the server market AMD are planning to really undercut Intel, well the early rumours are they are removing the price premium for higher socket count versions of their chips. IE a single socket 3Ghz 6 core AMD server chip costs less than a 2 socket version of the same chip, which costs less than a 4 socket version, and so on and so on. They are apparently moving to a , 3Ghz server cpu can work in almost any setup and will have a single cost no matter how many you use. It would seem over the next two years we really have some radical change in overall system power/composition and architecture and until that happens and software maybe starts to change to utilise the extra power/cores nothing inbetween will really offer your average gamer/home user much real world performance increase.
 
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