2015 F1 car launches

Goksly · 20 Jan 2015 at 11:41

Reminds me of the Toyota F1 car

dannyjo22 · 20 Jan 2015 at 11:43

Let's face it they could smother it in mud and it would still be more interesting than the bland Mclaren grey. It looks like the kind of livery a back running team would use, a Virgin or such team.

smr · 20 Jan 2015 at 12:09

I have a feeling that Mclaren won't be using a red and white livery for some reason.

~Mike~ · 20 Jan 2015 at 12:40

Another fake I reckon, there is no CNN sponsorship on the front-wing endplates.

Skeeter · 20 Jan 2015 at 13:19

Are Toyota back?

GravyMonster · 20 Jan 2015 at 13:20

Fake, given the lack of the CNN logos on the front wing endplates which were announced today, but I like it.

PinkFloyd · 20 Jan 2015 at 13:32

I'd love that to be real. But I'm not holding out many hopes.

The_Abyss · 20 Jan 2015 at 14:00

Force India have just delayed their unveiling until Jerez.

smr · 20 Jan 2015 at 14:59

Shimmy said:
Yeah, just livery however.
Do we want individual threads as per previous years?

Torro Rosso launching on the 31st.

Yes why not, I've created a Mclaren-Honda one, will leave the other ones for anyone else

deuse · 20 Jan 2015 at 16:24

If Omnicorse are telling the truth Merc are going to use the full 500 bar turbo pressure in 2015. Merc only used 250-300 bar in 2014.

I think Williams will be the only team to catch Merc this season.

kaiowas · 20 Jan 2015 at 16:33

500 Bar? I don't think so.

1 Bar is atmospheric pressure. 2 Bar is a decent turbo set up, 3-4 bar is getting extreme. 500 is just an error.

logix42p · 20 Jan 2015 at 16:37

deuse said:
If Omnicorse are telling the truth Merc are going to use the full 500 bar turbo pressure in 2015. Merc only used 250-300 bar in 2014.

I think Williams will be the only team to catch Merc this season.

Surely this is meant to be 5bar?

deuse · 20 Jan 2015 at 16:40

kaiowas said:
500 Bar? I don't think so.

1 Bar is atmospheric pressure. 2 Bar is a decent turbo set up, 3-4 bar is getting extreme. 500 is just an error.

"new Bosch injection system capable of turbo pressure to the regulations-maximum of 500 bar."

That's what it says. So Direct fuel injection up to 500bar.

Ferrari\Renault\Honda won't get anywhere near Merc power and low fuel usage.

1600cc, V6
15000 rpm max
Direct fuel injection up to 500bar
Single turbocharger
Controlled fuel flow

http://adamcooperf1.com/2011/06/30/fia-explains-v6-turbo-thinking/

kaiowas · 20 Jan 2015 at 16:42

500 Bar would be feasible for a fuel injection pressure. Sounds like someone who doesn't know what they're talking about got their numbers mixed up.

deuse · 20 Jan 2015 at 16:43

kaiowas said:
500 Bar would be feasible for a fuel injection pressure. Sounds like someone who doesn't know what they're talking about got their numbers mixed up.

Have a look. http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mercedes-denies-old-engine-for-2015-claims-report

As I've said "if it's true"

kaiowas · 20 Jan 2015 at 16:47

Found this which would seem to suggest it's actually referring to fuel pressure:

5.10.1 The pressure of the fuel supplied to the injectors may not exceed 500bar

Was probably a combination of poor translation from Italian and a lazy journo.

deuse · 20 Jan 2015 at 16:59

kaiowas said:
Found this which would seem to suggest it's actually referring to fuel pressure:

Was probably a combination of poor translation from Italian and a lazy journo.

That's what I posted from the adam cooper site. Wonder what that translates to turbo power?

MissChief · 20 Jan 2015 at 17:06

The important bit is 'fuel supplied to the injectors', that is not the same as turbo boost pressure at all.

Skeeter · 20 Jan 2015 at 18:10

All irrelevant with the fuel flow rate isn't it? Turbo pressure and revs are capped by association by the slow limit. Higher fuel pressure just means getting the limited amount they can use into the cylinders quicker?

Nothing to do with turbo pressure mind. Lol 500bar.

kaiowas · 20 Jan 2015 at 18:18

Fuel pressure limits boost indirectly. Higher cylinder pressures require higher injector pressures in order to allow good fuel atomisation and consequently good combustion.