2017 KTM 1290 SuperDuke R

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Had some time to ride on the new SuperDuke now and take a few more pics/gather some thoughts. I traded in my 2014 BMW S1000R for the KTM and after 2 days do not regret that decision. The SDR inspires far more confidence, perhaps it because I am more used to a more upright position. Perhaps it's the non-electronic suspension on the SDR compared to the S1000R. It might be the Metzler M7RRs. Or a combination of a load of things. I fell far more comfortable, far more planted and faster on the SDR.

I was a little concerned about smoothness. coming from the BMW IL4. I need not have been. The new SDR fueling is absolutely black magic. Even slow speed, 1st gear, hairpin exit roll-on is smooth. I was concerned these sorts of scenarios were going to be plagued by super snatchy throttle. It's not the case at all and KTM have done a fantastic job, even in the face of EU4.

The stock can does a pretty good job. Although I am not a fan of it's looks (It could be worse I guess) videos do not give you a true sense of it. It's pretty loud for a stock can and it makes all the right noises. With the Performance Pack Quickshifter+ it pops, bangs and burbles. The first upshift crack/bang caught me off guard - it was furious.

The quickshifter and auto blipper is sublime. The S1000R did a great job on upshifts and the SDR is just as good. The downshift autoblipper is perfect, every time, from any gear. Even 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 1st quickshifts/auto blips are positive and smooth. The auto blipper also handles downshifts with the throttle still held open.

The Motor Slip Regulation (MSR) does an absolutely fantastic job of ironing out the engine braking you might expect from such a large CC V-Twin. You still have a nice degree of engine braking in the stock setting that you can modulate off a bit of speed with throttle off but not "I felt like I just slammed on the front brake" feeling you might otherwise have without it.

I was not sold by the LCD dash in pictures/videos. But in practice it's excellent. It's clear, super vivid and sharp. It turns what would otherwise be a NIGHTMARE menu system into an easy to use mobile phone like experience. Customization of a favourite menu etc etc make it a joy to use.

Anyway, some pics:

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KTM Powerparts Carbon Ignition/Clutch Covers

Wanted these in-case of a drop. Bike would still be rideable hopefully. Not too spendy and are excellent quality.

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KTM Powerparts Heated Grips

Had heated grips on the S1000R and would not be without them now. The throttle side has internal cabling and clutch side fixed external cabling. Tidy enough!

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Vtrec Vario III Levers

Discounted heavily on the official store at present. £106 for folding, length and reach adjustable levers is a bargain. Can choose what colour options you want. I'm very happy with the matte black finish. Overall the fit, finish and quality is excellent. highly recommended.

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3M Invisishield

My go to for paint protection every time. Absolute PITA to put on but if you invest the time the finish is top notch. Literally invisible unless very close and very hard wearing. Best option if you want a 'naked' tank but don't want the paint being wrecked.

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Lots of parts incoming. KTM carbon ignition cover is backordered for a while so will have to put up with the plastic shroud on the tank for now.

Got a load of Evotech stuff coming also. Also waiting for some taller universal rizoma mounts to move my mirrors over.
 
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Awesome looking bike, if these weren't so high I would consider one but sadly it's too much hassle for me.

I'm looking to swap to an s1000r in the next few weeks, going from a street triple r to an s1000r is going to be great.

The R is a great bike, a large reason for my change was a shockingly poor Motorrad dealership.

Shame about the seat height on the SDR. 835mm for the SDR, 812mm for the S1000R. You will find that the ride height of the S1000r fitted with DDC (electronic Suspension) will change whilst the bike is running compared to not. Usually it tends to lower slightly.
 
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The torque just catapults you wherever you are pointing. I'm still in run in period and nowhere near WOT. Can just throw gears at it and it flies. The throttle and fueling makes it so usable though, never feel out of control.

Even though I can flat foot both the SDR and S1000R I did notice that despite there only being a small difference between seat heights I felt more tippy-toey on the SDR. It's harder to push back whilst sitting down for example. Having a decent turning circle again is nice though. The S1000R has the turning circle of a cruise liner!
 
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Some of the MTC failures are due to dealers not enabling the bike properly rather than actual faults. Some peoples bike's have "Shut Down" and were unrideable with MTC errors. This was due to the dealer enabling the bike for workshop time/road testing, which gives X number of days of operation. If it is not enabled for a customer a second time then the bike shuts down.

I think the 2015-2016 SDR fixed a lot of the problems the 2014 had (Wheel hub bearing, fuel tank design, oil seeping). Time will tell with the 2017, and that's a risk you take with buying a new model early on. To be fair though, mechanical and electrical failures occur in lot's of new bikes across all the brands.

Anyway, today a big Evotech Performance box arrived :cool:
 
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Spent a fair few hours putting Evotech parts on today :D High quality stuff, the tail tidy took the longest to sort out but so worth it with totalling invisible cabling.
 
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Long test ride on one today. Torque insane. Love it. Price equally insane though. Specced as I want it it's nearly £17k. Would need to put in around £10k on top of my Street. Really not sure it's worth that much.

I rode a black one but orange all the way for me.

Jesus, what you speccing to get £17k!? You'd need to add the full Akra Evo system to get anywhere near that! I don't think the Evo system represents good value. I'd wait for Arrow etc to release updated versions, although I think the current systems will fit if you tweak the passenger footpeg hanger.

The KTM tank grips (sandpaper) and tail tidy should be avoided. Go aftermarket.
 
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Track and performance pack, akra slip on, heated grips, tail tidy and a couple of carbon parts is £16.7k. I'd choose nearly new all day long but none are available right now as it's so new. Guess I'll have to wait a bit...

The Akra slip on is a total rip off. Near as dammit £800 for a slip on (no map nothing) is ridiculous.

The KTM tail tidy is naff. Get an Evotech one.

I passed on the track pack. The launch control is pretty fickle compared to the advanced stuff BMW, Yamaha etc use. With the BMW you can pin the throttle and completely dump the clutch. The KTM still requires manual clutch actuation.

Unless you want to turn wheelie control off and keep traction on or are a track goer who can use the slip regulation/throttle response adjustment I'd pass on Track Pack.
 
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Sin,

I might have a few orange bits (master cylinder top and alternator cover insert) kicking around from my 1190ADV if you want them?

I am close to Reading so would be good to meet up for a brew?

Matt

Meet up would be cracking, but I'm not on the mainland unfortunately :p

Hmm ok, thanks. But the evotech is still the same price basically as the ktm tail tidy. Track pack is not much and wheelie off with traction on is desirable IMHO.

Maybe could get a cheaper slip on, but still it's a £16k bike new. What's the best slip on then?

I'm getting an Austin Racing shorty slip-on. Under half the price basically. I'll let you know if it;s any good when it arrives.

The Evotech Tail tidy is a work of art. Full metal, 100% hidden cabling. Then angle of the KTM tail tidy is strange, I find it shines the reg plate light at people behind you rather than on the plate.

I'm no wheelie king so that part of the track pack was a bit of a no-go for me. You can always add it at a later date. It's a software update only.
 
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Threw a box of Evotech Parts at it today. :o

Abba Stand Adaptors
They fit, phew! Best investment ever, the new adaptor kits are not pennies cheap, but certainly much cheaper than needing a new stand for each new bike you need to work you.

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Crash Bobbins

Bit finicky to install. Subtle enough that they do not become an eyesore but look great when noticed.
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Front/Rear Bobbins

These are designed to spin, allegedly better in an off. For some reason the rear offside picture did not take/save. It's orange though! :cool:
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Rectifier Guard

Was cheap...why not.
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Rad Guard

Typical EP quality here, lightweight, perfect fitment.
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Tail Tidy

As previously mentioned, this thing is top notch quality. It takes a little time to assemble as all the cabling is routed within the tidy itself. It also retains and reuses all of the OEM cabling/plugs and indicator stalks/reg plate LED themselves. Plug and Play, no cutting. Super easy to install once assembled.

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All in all every single Evotech bit I handled and installed was superb quality, finished immaculately and fitted/installed exactly as expected. Highly recommenced.
 
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Does the quickshifter come as standard on the 2017 SDR or is it something you need to pay extra for?

You can get it with the Performance Pack, which also included MyRide and the Motor Slip Regulation (You want this) and that represents the best value. Or you can buy it as a standalone option. All the hardware is on all bikes, it's just a software unlock. The KTM.co.uk configuration shows you all the options available and prices.


New Rizoma mirror adapters arrived. The ones from the S1000R fit, but were a little too short/fouled the CC switch. New taller ones sorts that problem out. Also a cheeky snap of the bling side of the Evotech rear bobbin :D

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I'll be surprised if nobody manages to hack the ECU or whatever it is to unlock all the extras for free. I wonder if it is just a on/off switch in the software or if they actually load on extra software for the extras.

For some of the options on older 1190 adventures it literally was a case of plug in, change from "No" to "Yes" and that was it.

The ECUs won't be hacked though, or seems very unlikely.
 
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Some bits arrived today, almost at the end of the ordered stuff! Paint sealant in an effort to try make the bright orange wheels easier to maintain/keep clean. Bought a screen protector for a tablet which I cut down to side to try protect the soft (very soft) plastic on the LCD dash. TechSpec Snakeskin tank grips also arrived after a 3 week stock delay. The sealant was not particularly cheap, but should last forever on the bike for the little paintwork that needs coverage. Feels suuuuuuuuper slippery after putting the stuff on so hopefully is as good as ratings might suggest.

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