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22-Way Comparison Of NVIDIA & AMD Graphics Cards On SteamOS For Steam Linux Gaming

tommybhoy said:
Yeah it really was when you can't back up your claim, you really should listen to others sometimes.:)
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I would not worry about it much really. It's gregster, you know he is an nvidia guy deep down in his heart, even if he can't see it himself :p;):D
 
Aren't the Steam machines going to use the Vulkan API for all the games? AMD drivers will by fine in that case since Mantle was incorporated into the API a while back.

The games in the OP don't use Vulkan at all so they are largely irrelevant to any upcoming Steam machine games even if they are running in SteamOS. It's like comparing old DX11 games in Windows 10 and trying to say the results represent DX12 gaming performance.
 
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Doubtful Vulkan is a Steam OS requirement going by Steam's efforts to convert titles to the existing api.

Steam machines are all but Nvidia even Intel, don't think any AMD Steam box are on the store-no wonder really, going off the numbers AMD's console hardware can play harder than AMD's desktop in that space.:p:D

TNA said:
I would not worry about it much really. It's gregster, you know he is an nvidia guy deep down in his heart, even if he can't see it himself :p;):D
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:eek::D
 
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If people don't think dx12 performance is a significant enough point to consider at the moment for graphic card at the moment, why do (the same) people care about gaming performance of graphic cards on Linux/Steam OS, when it is probably going to take even longer than dx12 to take off/become mainstream? :confused:
 
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Marine-RX179 said:
If people think don't think dx12 performance is a significant enough point to consider at the moment for graphic card at the moment, why do (the same) people care about gaming performance of graphic cards on Linux/Steam OS, when it is probably going to take even longer than dx12 to take off/become mainstream? :confused:
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That just makes no sense. "If people think don't think"?

I feel the whole mass of API's and OS's that we PC people use for gaming are all relevant regardless of anything. If I didn't feel SteamOS was relevant, I wouldn't have posted the thread but Phoronix do a good job with Linux and deserve some credit.
 
Gregster said:
That just makes no sense. "If people think don't think"?

I feel the whole mass of API's and OS's that we PC people use for gaming are all relevant regardless of anything. If I didn't feel SteamOS was relevant, I wouldn't have posted the thread but Phoronix do a good job with Linux and deserve some credit.
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They are only relevant if you plan on using them. As a windows gamer they are not relevant to me as i won't be using them unless they can match the windows experience which is still a while off so not relevant in the slightest yet (for me that is). I feel the majority will be seeing it that way. I would however be open to a more gaming focused OS such as Steam OS if it can up it's game. I still feel it would be a dual boot situation as i like to watch a lot of multi-media on my PC as well.
 
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Marine-RX179 said:
If people think don't think dx12 performance is a significant enough point to consider at the moment for graphic card at the moment, why do (the same) people care about gaming performance of graphic cards on Linux/Steam OS, when it is probably going to take even longer than dx12 to take off/become mainstream? :confused:
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I don't think we should confuse some people disregarding information with that information being worthless. More information is always better.
In the case of DX12, most of the review sites compare "reference" cards at stock clocks, which is good information, but you also need more information if you are buying aftermarket cards and/or overclocking.

The same with this, giving the current state of play on SteamOS is good information, but it also needs to be kept updated as things progress and when/if more games are available on SteamOS.

Sticking your head in the sand and saying "no, we want less information because we don't like this information" is not really conducive to forming a well rounded opinion on something.
 
AMD def not great in Linux. At least they are good with DX12. I imagine there will be more gamers using Windows + DX11 / DX12 than VS Linux as we go forward tbh.

SteamOS seemed like a good idea (Locking people into proprietary OS Steam Shop aside), but seems to not be gaining any traction. Maybe if / when it does AMD will improve drivers..
 
andybird123 said:
1% of 125million is still over a million
There also aren't any/many Linux laptops which is why it doesn't show up on the steam survey (if you look at the resolutions in use on steam survey and combine that with the %of people using Intel and "M" processors, it looks to me like about 50-60% of people who respond to the steam survey are on laptops)
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1 million is nothing if you know how much software dev costs in order to give them closer parity with windows.
 
if its faster on steamOS gamers will switch
its what they do!
if it happens it will happen fast, like a zombie apocalypse
 
Linux might matter slightly when and if it ever becomes as usable as Windows, right now its geared far too much to people who like to spend their lives problem solving software. a bit like Windows of very old.

OpenGL is also pretty much dead, Nvidia have spent a fortune developing it for their hardware but its replacement 'Vulkan' is based on Mantle.
 
What it comes down to is that Linux gives people choice and drives competition in the market.

And that is never a bad thing.
 
I would love it if Linux became the go to os for gaming builds.
But I would also have liked to have seen efficiency pushed further so we can run sfx builds at 1080p with even lower power requirment.
 
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