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Hi guys

I have a very strange problem.

When i play games i get bad stutters so iv been switching parts from my other pc and a fresh install of windows 7 to see if this would work. Different motherboard but same make and model as in my sig etc etc for the parts, exactly the same as in my sig but from my other system.

Now when i do a a prime95 test while gaming, my games run smooth, without prime95 my games go stuttery. What would cause this to happen and is there a way i can get my CPU to run full throttle 24/7 or would this be bad for it ?

Many thanks.
 
First thing, disable any overclocks and reset your bios.

Failing that, is your CPU down clocking? Might be an issue there. I know it's normally not the case.
 
If i tab out of game and check CPUz its telling me 4.4Ghz, thats my OC speed. Iv tried to run at stock and does nothing, iv also flashed the bios and does nothing. Im getting so stressed out as been trying to figure this out for the past week :(
 
man ive been having problems with stutters as well, although I think mine is psu related... very annoying :( hope you fix yours
 
Iv read about quite a lot of people on sandybridge having stutter problems in games so looks like it might be CPU related :(

What makes you think yours is your PSU ? Is it a low wattage ?
 
Stupid question and I hope you do not mind me asking. What lane do you both have your graphic card in? Check on the motherboard that the card is in the x16 lane.

Other thing to do is to disable the turbo setting in your bios. In fact if you do not need the power management of Speed step or thermal throttling disable them all.

Are both people who have this issue using the same kit?
 
I don't know if its related, but yesterday there was a patch on Steam:

Updates to Half-Life 2, Portal, Half-Life: Episode One and Half-Life: Episode Two have been released. The updates will be applied automatically when your Steam client is restarted. The major changes include:

Half-Life 2, Portal, Half-Life: Episode One and Half-Life: Episode Two
Better support for Intel Sandy Bridge based machines

Which certainly implies that there was some sort of issue with sandybridge CPUs and the old source engine. Meaning there could possibly be similar issues with other game engines?
 
Hi guys

I have a very strange problem.

When i play games i get bad stutters so iv been switching parts from my other pc and a fresh install of windows 7 to see if this would work. Different motherboard but same make and model as in my sig etc etc for the parts, exactly the same as in my sig but from my other system.

Now when i do a a prime95 test while gaming, my games run smooth, without prime95 my games go stuttery. What would cause this to happen and is there a way i can get my CPU to run full throttle 24/7 or would this be bad for it ?

Many thanks.

I haven't used a newer Intel mobo, nor an older 775 one for a while but, it was the EIST or something like that setting, and speedstep that usually you want to disable to prevent it downclocking.

Secondly I'd try running a game with gpu-z/msi afterburner in the background checking gpu clocks, check nothing is downclocking gpu wise.

Always helpful if you have a second screen then you can leave stuff like that open to check on as/when needed. I can't think of anything off the top of my head that logs cpu speed so you can check how often its downclocking, I just use cpu-z on the other screen so can see it actually happen.

Stuttering though could be down to so many different things, what game is it in, what gpu overclock if any, gddr5 auto downclocks if it finds its unstable, so theres potential that internally it can downclock WITHOUT showing externally if its unstable.

In some games vsync just does not play ball with the engine at all and produces a horrible stuttery performance, both Nvidia/AMD suffer from this in various games.

For me a 5850 can provide 60fps rock solid standing still with vsync on in Just Cause 2, but turn and it stutters, drops to 20-30fps, then after standing still or just not turning the fps gets back up to 60fps after a few seconds.

Now turn off vsync and all the same settings the 5850 blasts along well above 100fps and DOESN'T drop when turning, at all, buttery smooth doing anything. Vysnc just introduces horrible horrible stuttering from no where, don't know why but it does, GTA4 tends to be less good with vsync on, with Nvidia users seeing it aswell in that game.

It could be loads of different things and hopefully its not anything that Sandybridge/intel have changed that makes games have issues, though Steam doing an update just for it, and various other Sandybridge issues are starting to make me think otherwise.
 
Stupid question and I hope you do not mind me asking. What lane do you both have your graphic card in? Check on the motherboard that the card is in the x16 lane.

Other thing to do is to disable the turbo setting in your bios. In fact if you do not need the power management of Speed step or thermal throttling disable them all.

Are both people who have this issue using the same kit?

Hi 1Day

I have my graphics card in the top slot on my motherboard iv always used that and assume thats the right one, iv read through the motherboard manual and as far as i can see there is nothing to say what slot to use.

As for the other people having these problems, no they are on different kind of setups so i suppose i cant really go by my setup compared to theirs.

Will try as you suggest with the bios settings as was originally using a 4.4 on this chip. Will try with the bios settings you suggest and see how it goes

Thank you for your advice, i will try anything at the moment as this is stressing me out to high heaven lol :D

I haven't used a newer Intel mobo, nor an older 775 one for a while but, it was the EIST or something like that setting, and speedstep that usually you want to disable to prevent it downclocking.

Secondly I'd try running a game with gpu-z/msi afterburner in the background checking gpu clocks, check nothing is downclocking gpu wise.

Always helpful if you have a second screen then you can leave stuff like that open to check on as/when needed. I can't think of anything off the top of my head that logs cpu speed so you can check how often its downclocking, I just use cpu-z on the other screen so can see it actually happen.

Stuttering though could be down to so many different things, what game is it in, what gpu overclock if any, gddr5 auto downclocks if it finds its unstable, so theres potential that internally it can downclock WITHOUT showing externally if its unstable.

In some games vsync just does not play ball with the engine at all and produces a horrible stuttery performance, both Nvidia/AMD suffer from this in various games.

For me a 5850 can provide 60fps rock solid standing still with vsync on in Just Cause 2, but turn and it stutters, drops to 20-30fps, then after standing still or just not turning the fps gets back up to 60fps after a few seconds.

Now turn off vsync and all the same settings the 5850 blasts along well above 100fps and DOESN'T drop when turning, at all, buttery smooth doing anything. Vysnc just introduces horrible horrible stuttering from no where, don't know why but it does, GTA4 tends to be less good with vsync on, with Nvidia users seeing it aswell in that game.

It could be loads of different things and hopefully its not anything that Sandybridge/intel have changed that makes games have issues, though Steam doing an update just for it, and various other Sandybridge issues are starting to make me think otherwise.

Drunkenmaster you have some nice points there so allong with changing my bios settings i will also try as you suggest too as could only make things better hopefully :)

Thanks for the help, will report back with results.
 
Ok iv done my bios settings by disabling turbo and speed step and the thermal control. When i launch CPUz i see 1.6 idle and 4.4 when i run anything like prime 95 or launch a program. Is this normal or should it be running at 4.4 constant ?

Thanks.
 
It's normal. There's no reason to disable SpeedStep but I don't think you can disable it with Sandy Bridge anyway if you have overclocking enabled, which is a good thing.
 
If it's not a CPU throttle, could it be the thermal throttle on your GPU, I notice you flashed it from a HD6950 to an HD6970?

I'm just wondering if running prime means the game is running slightly slower, and therefore the card isn't under as much load and isn't throttling, but without prime, the game is running faster and the card is constantly throttling.
 
If it's not a CPU throttle, could it be the thermal throttle on your GPU, I notice you flashed it from a HD6950 to an HD6970?

I'm just wondering if running prime means the game is running slightly slower, and therefore the card isn't under as much load and isn't throttling, but without prime, the game is running faster and the card is constantly throttling.

I forgot to mention im running the graphics card at stock as i was beginning to think the graphic card was suspect. I just flicked the switch back to the default bios and running at stock clock and memory speeds.
 
Btw this problem is still happening even with the bios settings with speed step disabled and turbo disabled, also thermal control disabled. No further closer to solving what can be causing the game stutters. Its across a number of games and not just 1 or 2 so i know something is wrong somewhere :(
 
Update

Iv tested a 5850 and i get the same problems so not graphic related, got to be motherboard or CPU but iv swapped motherboards and CPU's from the other system to this with a fresh install of windows 7 and still not right.

Motherboard is the exact same model with same bios and CPU is same as what i had in my main system.

Does anyone know of such a problem with these CPU's or motherboards ?
 
Update :

Iv tried with indexing off and still does not help.

The problem only appears when i move mouse to the left or right or if im strafing left or right in games. If im moving forward i dont get the stutters.

Iv tested 3 mice and 2 monitors also to eliminate them but nothing.
 
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