27" 3D Monitors

neallnufc · 6 Feb 2011 at 17:21

Is there a 27" 3d monitor released yet ? ,looking to replace my 30" dell now but dont think i could drop down too much size wise
i,ve seen some stuff about asus but nothing concrete/prices/dates

PCM2 · 6 Feb 2011 at 17:33

Based on available information the ASUS HN274H should cost around £600 and be released around March in the UK. Samsung are also releasing the 'SA950' and 'SA750' series which includes 27 inch models. These should provide a nice vibrant image with the Samsung 'Ultra Clear' panel technology but again you won't see any IPS-like quality here. Release date and priced TBH although March is expected and the price is probably going to be £500+ for the S27A950. I expect a 27" from LG and possibly ASUS later in the year, possibly with an announcement at CeBit in March. If you're looking to match the image quality of your 30" Dell, however, you're going to be looking at the U2711H or illusive Hazro equivilent at least which are of course not 120Hz 3D monitors.

neallnufc · 6 Feb 2011 at 17:59

thanks
its just i fancy buying the 3d glasses ect(maybe its just a waste of money)
but thats the reason any

ways

PCM2 · 6 Feb 2011 at 18:18

Also remember that the ASUS comes with a pair of Nvidia 3D glasses and a receiver built into the monitor - so you just need a compatible GPU like you have and you're away. Getting it all in one like this is probably a good way to test it out - makes it easier to send back under DSR if you don't like the whole 3D thing.

3D aside I expect the extra framerate and general smoothness you can get from some of your games will be useful as well considering the power of your graphics card. Presumably you were running much higher resolutions than 1920 x 1080 on your previous monitor.

neallnufc · 6 Feb 2011 at 18:59

PCM2 said:
Also remember that the ASUS comes with a pair of Nvidia 3D glasses and a receiver built into the monitor - so you just need a compatible GPU like you have and you're away. Getting it all in one like this is probably a good way to test it out - makes it easier to send back under DSR if you don't like the whole 3D thing. 3D aside I expect the extra framerate and general smoothness you can get from some of your games will be useful as well considering the power of your graphics card. Presumably you were running much higher resolutions than 1920 x 1080 on your previous monitor.

looks like the choice has been made then...
i think i,ll sell my dell 30'' when it gets exchanged am i thinking that should just about cover the cost?

gareth170 · 6 Feb 2011 at 19:20

or u could get a 3d tv which does the job also. not sure if Nvidia 3d software works with them..

i game in 3d with a amd 6950 , works perfect at 1920x1080 with my 3d tv

PCM2 · 6 Feb 2011 at 19:28

I don't think it supports 3D Vision per se but you can use Nvidia 3D Play (which unfortunately I have no experience with). It also doesn't have quite the same level of responsiveness benefit as a dedicated 120Hz computer monitor for gaming.

gareth170 · 6 Feb 2011 at 19:36

do u know why i don't see a big drop in fps when in 3d compare to Nvidia 3d which i heard it has a big drop in fps?

tbh i haven't seen any responsiveness issues mate.

PCM2 · 6 Feb 2011 at 19:37

What model of 3D TV is it?

gareth170 · 6 Feb 2011 at 19:41

Samsung 46" 750 3d tv .... LE46C750

the gaming in 3d looks so good thh

PCM2 · 6 Feb 2011 at 19:54

Ah very good choice - still a fair bit more expensive than the Acer and upcoming Samsung monitors. I think (as far as I'm aware) you can actually use Nvidia 3D Play software with such a TV but I'm not sure how well it works. I would imagine it would be similar to the ATI solution you're using currently (the 6xxx series has driver level support for 3D). I'm not really up to date on the exact method the Samsungs use for their 3D. I think it could be 'frame sequential' but I'm not sure on the inns and outs of this method I'm afraid.

gareth170 · 6 Feb 2011 at 20:02

PCM2 said:
Ah very good choice - still a fair bit more expensive than the Acer and upcoming Samsung monitors. I think (as far as I'm aware) you can actually use Nvidia 3D Play software with such a TV but I'm not sure how well it works. I would imagine it would be similar to the ATI solution you're using currently (the 6xxx series has driver level support for 3D). I'm not really up to date on the exact method the Samsungs use for their 3D. I think it could be 'frame sequential' but I'm not sure on the inns and outs of this method I'm afraid.

ok. thanks mate..

yeah i didn't see he was selling his 30" screen to buy a 3d monitor...

PCM2 · 6 Feb 2011 at 20:25

neallnufc said:
looks like the choice has been made then...
i think i,ll sell my dell 30'' when it gets exchanged am i thinking that should just about cover the cost?

I suppose the original point I made only applies if you want to use the Nvidia 3D solution. It sounds as if Samsung might really know what they're doing for a good 3D experience. The upcoming Samsung models should come with their own 3D glasses that should provide a similar experience to that on their 3D TVs (with the extra responsive benefits of a super-fast TN panel). This would be just as easy to send back under DSR - you could always try both and see which you prefer.

rjk · 6 Feb 2011 at 21:33

i dont know if i could drop down from a 30" tbh

i have really normalised to my 3008 now and cant see any reason to replace it.
[well unless i was to get a 3011 which are simply sublime]

i am still waiting for some kind of standard to emerge in this 3d thing. i cant see myself getting on with it for general gaming. and couldnt see it having other uses for me personally.

although i would be very much interested in playing on one of the asus models mentioned above, i think i would need to have a week with one to decide and that is a large investment if i dont like it

slim01 · 7 Feb 2011 at 02:33

i cant see 3d cos my left eye dont work

slim01 · 7 Feb 2011 at 02:34

which is a big shame... im jealous

PCM2 · 7 Feb 2011 at 09:51

It's not for everyone anyway. Even many people who are able to see the effect don't always like it. It makes certain types of game really difficult to play, too!

bobert50 · 28 Feb 2011 at 16:28

slim01 said:
which is a big shame... im jealous

Your really not missing much

its ok but very gimmicky.

cmndr_andi · 28 Feb 2011 at 16:43

gareth170 said:
do u know why i don't see a big drop in fps when in 3d compare to Nvidia 3d which i heard it has a big drop in fps?

Since you are using a TV for 3D gaming - then this uses a HDMI v1.4 connection instead of a dual link DVI. The HDMI v1.4 connection can only support 3D at 1080p@24Hz or 720p@60Hz due to bandwidth restrictions (dual link DVI supports 3D at 1080p@60Hz), hence for gaming you are likely to be using the 720p@60Hz option and your TV is scaling to output to fill the (presumably 1080p) screen.

Therefore, in terms of demand on your hardware 720p 3D gaming should be similar to 1080p non-3D gaming - so it makes sense that you are seeing similar FPS when switching between modes.

gareth170 · 28 Feb 2011 at 16:47

cmndr_andi said:
Since you are using a TV for 3D gaming - then this uses a HDMI v1.4 connection instead of a dual link DVI. The HDMI v1.4 connection can only support 3D at 1080p@24Hz or 720p@60Hz due to bandwidth restrictions (dual link DVI supports 3D at 1080p@60Hz), hence for gaming you are likely to be using the 720p@60Hz option and your TV is scaling to output to fill the (presumably 1080p) screen.

Therefore, in terms of demand on your hardware 720p 3D gaming should be similar to 1080p non-3D gaming - so it makes sense that you are seeing similar FPS when switching between modes.

nope

i've got it working at 1080p 60hz, side by side mode , (2 separate images), using iz3d driver

i'm surprised nobody knew about this.