£2700 Dosh to Spend on a Super-Rig

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Tbh, it's her build, get her to come and sign up so we can get feedback. There's no point speccing the £2800 build if she then says "not enough power", or the £3700 build if she says "not worth it". Calling the shop is fine, but might as well try and get something on the forum first - it's nice to come in with some idea of what you want.
 
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@pmc25 - I do not believe she wants to wait another month.
@Wilko49 - She may do that

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May anyone spec her a VERY HIGH quality Water cool setup?
Dual rad or maybe dual pump?

Do you know if she can deal with stripping the whole loop down each year, cleaning the blocks (if necessary) and refilling with distilled/deionised?

Watercooling isn't 'fire and forget', it does need maintenance.

EDIT: Waiting a month may be a good idea as the new AMD chips may out perform the 2600K (potentially at a lower cost) - especially in encoding tasks
 
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Unless she's building it herself, forget watercooling IMO. It's almost purely for cosmetic reasons now that chips run much cooler and almost silent air cooling is actually effective, but there WILL be maintenance and unless she's comfortable taking the whole lot to bits it's going to be a massive pain for little benefit. If she's massively into video editing, she'd benefit far more from a massive RAID0+1 or similar array purely for videos and in addition to an OS drive/array - forget running from the NAS, that'll be a massive bottleneck.
 
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For that amount of money it would be stupid to go for anything other than a dual CPU rig.

Sandybridge is good, but it is NOT 8 cores good.

Or she could just wait for SB-E, but that's Q4 2011-Q1 2012!

Although is this is going to use for work? Watercooling and overclocking should NOT be considered at all if that is the case.

Monitor should be the Dell U3011 or equivalent, Hazro, as cheap and cheerful as they are, arn't really something that should be considered at this kind of budget level!

Personally, i'd buy the 2.66/2.93Ghz Octo-core Mac Pro with a 6870 and 24Gb of ram (if your running windows any PC GPU is fine) but it's not exactly everyones cup of tea. This again depends on the criticallity of what she uses it for. Gaming would "suffer" (if you call having a 6870 'suffering'), but depends on what she prioritises.

If it's some spending spree for home then yes a SB would be fine, for work, not at all.

£3000-3600 depending on how barganous your feeling gets you:
1. Very, very stylish case.
2. 8 cores, 16 threads at 2.93Ghz (Save a few bob by getting the X5550 @ 2.66).
3. 24-32Gb of ram imported from OWC (I got 12Gb ECC for £150 and that was 6 months ago).
4. 6870/whatever you fancy from OcUK - in windows it doesn't need special versions of the card.
5. Dell U3011

Also forget about anything below 10Gb of ram, if she is spending this much and is serious about her video/photo workflow then MORE memory is better than less, faster memory. I use up 12Gb quite happily with my W3520 let alone something more powerful!


So in summary:
1. NO to overclocking/watercooling if this is going to be used for anything work critical.
2. ≥12Gb of ram.
3. Dual socket - NOT SB, it's no match for 8+cores.
 
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Are you goingto run PCIe based hardware like MojoDX, MXO2 or AJA on your system?

If you are,DO NOT BUY A SANDY-BRIDGE System. The P67 chipsets have shared PCIe bandwidth, so each slot does NOT have its own dedicated PCIe lanes.That means trouble.You don't want that.I do not know for sure for the Z68.

On the other hand,SINGLE xeons are not better than 2600k in rendering options anymore.Here is what is present

A DUAL XEON though, will be like a ferrari in a drag race with a buggy.A lot of money,but worth every penny of it.This baby has six cores(2600k->4) and if you put two 12(2600k->4) ,each processor has 12MB cache(2600k->8) supports 3 lanes of RAM(2600K->2) and you do not need to throw your computer if you want to upgrade your processor, RAM or quad sli...

In addition,I would not bother with any consumer monitors like Hazro, Iiyama etc and go directly to the professional stuff.Buy an EIZO or LaCie, monitors well known for their distribution of quality in this area.

About your external drives, putting them into an external case that can be connected with a PCI Card boosting your performance.

Finally,this is what i would recommend for the computer without the monitors:
Product Name Qty Price Line Total
2*Intel Xeon X5650 2.66GHz (Westmere) (Socket 1366) £1,498.00

EVGA Classified SR-2 Intel 5520 (Socket 1366) £599.99

MSI GeForce GTX 580 OC Twin FrozR II 1536MB £379.99

Corsair Professional Series Gold AX1200 £224.99

Corsair Obsidian 800D Full Tower Case - Black £224.99

OCZ Vertex 2E Bigfoot 120GB 3.5" SATA-II Solid State Hard Drive £169.99

2*Pioneer BDR-206DBK 12x BluRay RW / 16x DVD±RW Drive - Black £207.98

2*Corsair XMS3 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 PC3-16000C9 2000MHz £149.98

2*Noctua NH-U12P SE2 Dual Fan Quiet CPU Cooler £111.98

Total : £3,588.12

Then you can upgrade to sli,RAID of SSD and other goodies. Professional Video Editing is an expensive job.If you need to play games,buy an other 500gb hdd and install windows on that.

Good luck!!!!!
 
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You may consider the posts here but as it's has been mentioned before, you need to speak to OCUK staff members to help you in building a PC for your purpose - I won't waste your time in putting together a shopping list of parts as you need to speak to customer to understand their needs. But I have much in common with your problem and I hope this post helps in some way...

I use my PC for gaming but other main uses are Sony Vegas 10 Pro x64 and Adobe PhotoShop CS5 Extended x64 so I understand your needs. I spent at least as much as your budget considering the Dell 24" IPS, 22" TFT, A3 printer, film scanner, and backup RAID-1 storage. If you can't afford two monitors, just make sure you buy a damn good IPS monitor (calibrated) and save up for the second or use a spare one for now. I really can't imagine using either PS/Vegas with only one screen - it really pays to improve productivity with plenty of screen estate as there is nothing worse than toolbars getting in the way. Unless your an animator I seen little point in paying for 30" as 2x 24" does it for most photographers I know - 30" is too big but its all down to your friends preference.

Main points for hardware are either a slightly oc'd CPU (watercooled) to minimise noise levels to aid concentration or SR2-based setup with 2x Intel Xeon X5650 2.66GHz. My 2600K oc'd to 4.7Ghz is still not as fast I as would like, takes 40mins to render 8mins 1080p H264 @10MBps in Vegas 10. Overclocking hasn't affected stability whatsoever and can remain on for weeks on end without restarting. If you get a Xeon/SR2 setup then a Corsair 800D may not be big enough, plus using it just for air cooling isn't very good as the temps will build up. Btw, I spent my budget back then getting PhotoShop CS5.

Plenty of RAM as 8GB is absolute minimal for any serious editing, safe bet is 16GB as that what I have done - most high-end mobos max out at 32GB. I typically use 11GB RAM just to edit RAW files. Also plenty of VRAM (min. 1GB) so PS CS5 can make use for quick screen redraws.

SSD is a must for programmes that will take use full use of the disk speed with video/image editors so aim for getting at least a OCZ Vertex 2 120GB Sata-II or splash out for the twice as fast Vertex 3 240GB Sata-III - you will notice the difference as that is a well reviewed SSD. As the SSD will be the primary drive + OS, you'll need generous amounts of HDD and you can't go wrong with the WD Caviar Green 2TB - I had to buy 3x of these as thousands of 18MP RAW images takes up TBs of space (not to mention the film scans @100MBps each for retouching), plus you need to copy these to your backup 2TB before you even start to process as a safeguard.
 
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Just politely pointing out: A midi tower case isn't going to fit a EVGA SR-2 which is classed as E-ATX as you need a super tower case (with 10 expansion slots) such as the Lian Li PC-P80B (£299.99), or the Cubitek HPTX-Tank for a more reasonable £189.98.

I know Xeons are more energy efficient than typical desktop chips but I'd still choose more than a 850W PSU - I would advise a 80%+efficient 1200W which means paying around £200.
 
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People speccing builds need to pay a little more attention to posts from the guys such as FMTopfan, xtremepc and Concorde Rules. Guys with what appears to be more experience in the professional side rather than seeing the word "gamer" and "£3600" and just speccing based on that...

Phone OCUK. Speak to the staff. Its the only sensible thing to do!
 
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Just politely pointing out: A midi tower case isn't going to fit a EVGA SR-2 which is classed as E-ATX as you need a super tower case (with 10 expansion slots) such as the Lian Li PC-P80B (£299.99), or the Cubitek HPTX-Tank for a more reasonable £189.98.

I know Xeons are more energy efficient than typical desktop chips but I'd still choose more than a 850W PSU - I would advise a 80%+efficient 1200W which means paying around £200.

Revised Build Changed the parts you saw and the ram to make sure there where two kits.

YOUR BASKET
1 x Hazro Ultra-Sharp HZ30Wi 30" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Black £849.00
1 x Intel Xeon X5650 2.66GHz (Westmere) (Socket 1366) - Retail £749.00
1 x EVGA Classified SR-2 Intel 5520 (Socket 1366) DDR3 Motherboard (270-WS-W555-ER) £599.99
1 x Corsair Professional Series Gold AX1200 High Performance 1200W Modular Power Supply (CMPSU-1200AXUK) £224.99
1 x Cubitek HPTX-Tank Aluminium Big-Tower Case - Black £189.98
2 x Corsair Vengeance 12GB (3x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Triple Channel Kit (CMZ12GX3M3A1600C9) £139.99
2 x OCZ Agility 3 60GB 2.5" SATA-3 Solid State Hard Drive (AGT3-25SAT3-60G) £101.99
2 x Samsung SpinPoint F4 EcoGreen 2TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (HD204UI) £62.99
2 x Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 Pro Extreme Performance CPU Cooler (Socket LGA775/1155/1156/1366/AM3/AM2+/AM2) £27.98
1 x LG GH22NS50 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £16.99
Total : £3,322.50 (includes shipping : £22.20).
 
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To those who think it's for work use, I'm not sure it is. Gaming and benching are two of the main uses, and given that most people overstate how much rendering/editing they do, I'd say that we are looking at a high end gaming rig to be honest. I would go with the others and say that watercooling probably isn't a good idea though - if she can't build it herself, why would she be able to take it apart and maintain it?
 
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YOUR BASKET
1 x Hazro Ultra-Sharp HZ30Wi 30" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Black £849.00
1 x Silverstone Temjin TJ11B-W Full Monster Tower Gaming Case - Black £475.99
1 x MSI Big Bang Marshal Intel P67 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard - (Sandybridge) **B3 REVISION** £259.99
1 x Intel Core i7-2600K 3.40GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor £254.99
1 x Corsair Professional Series Gold AX1200 High Performance 1200W Modular Power Supply (CMPSU-1200AXUK) £224.99
3 x Asus GeForce GTX 480 1536MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card with FarCry 2 Game £214.99
2 x OCZ Agility 3 60GB 2.5" SATA-3 Solid State Hard Drive (AGT3-25SAT3-60G) £101.99
1 x Black Ice SR-1 480 Radiator £91.91
2 x G.Skill RipJawsX 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C8 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM) £89.99
2 x Swiftech Laing D5 Vario MCP655 12V DC Pump £79.99
1 x Black Ice SR-1 360 Radiator £71.48
3 x EK Fullcover GTX 580 Waterblock - Nickel Plexi £69.98
1 x Western Digital Caviar Green 1.5TB SATA-II 64MB Cache - OEM (WD15EARS) £59.99
1 x EK Supreme HF Copper Plexi (775/1156/1366/AM3) CPU Water Block [3830046990181] £51.05
1 x Samsung SH-B123L/RSBP 12x BluRay ROM DVDRW DL & RAM Lightscribe SATA-II Optical Drive - Black (Retail) £49.98
1 x XSPC Acrylic Dual 5.25" Reservoir for Laing D5 (MCP655) £44.40
Total : £3,859.27 (includes shipping : £22.20).

tri sli gtx480's water cooled just put the 580 blocks there to represent the price of 480 blocks which should give a good overclocking head room and destroy the 30" resolution off 2560x1600 with a corsair ax1200 psu to run this black hole of power

1x480 rad for gpus and 240 rad for cpu which should fit nicley into the bottem off TJ11 which will be the new benchmark for pc cases for a good few years and also when i turns up it looks like 4grands worth of pc not just a buggatti dressed up as a metro lol

2x60gb ssd's for raid vertex 3's plus a blu-ray player and an extra 1.5tb of storage

though the sr-2 build would use to much off the budget and leave no room for gpu power to run the 30" so went for a 2600-k and 16gb of ram (ram choice was purely on colour as it would go nicely with the mobo)on a msi big bang to allow for the full bandwidth for tri-sli and with them being watercooled she could still add sound card's and other pci-e items or possibly another 480 for quad sli ;)
 
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