2k (ish) build support

[jjhiggy]

Hi all,

After a recent post Tetras posted the following. He was such a help honestly I’m majorly impressed with everyone’s responses here not a single keyboard warrior in sight. I’m looking to get this bought on the 17th/18th so would love some final advice before then.

The build he proposed is as follows:

Lian Li LANCOOL 215 Mid-Tower aRGB Tempered Glass Black - £89.99
Lian-Li GALAHAD AIO 360mm High Performance RGB CPU Water Cooler - Black - £149.98
Phanteks AMP 1000W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply - £149.99

WD Black SN770 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3X0E) - £139.99

Intel Core i5-13600K (Raptor Lake) Socket LGA1700 Processor - Retail - £339.95
Asus Prime Z790-P (LGA 1700) DDR5 ATX Motherboard -£249.94
TeamGroup Vulcan EXPO 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C38 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (FLABD532G6000HC38ADC01) - £230.00

Asrock Radeon RX 6900 XT Phantom Gaming D 16GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card - £649.98
AMD Radeon™ Raise The Game Bundle - Dead Island 2 & The Callisto Project - £0.00

Grand Total: £2,013.02

Can anyone suggest any alternatives?

Thanks again,
Josh

 

[dazzlaa]

In all honesty I’d prob go for a different power supply if it was me as Phanteks aren’t exactly known for power supplies. I suppose that is reflected in the price. Rest of the build looks decent !

 

[Tetras]

In all honesty I’d prob go for a different power supply if it was me as Phanteks aren’t exactly known for power supplies. I suppose that is reflected in the price. Rest of the build looks decent !

As far as I know, the AMP line are based on (near identical to) the Seasonic Focus GX PSUs. The Phanteks is often one of the cheapest (I think the Asus ROG is the most expensive, but it has more customisation, like bigger heatsinks and a 140mm fan).

 

[GreatAuk]

I wonder if there might be a bit of a space issue in that case with that 340mm gpu length (case has 370mm room for gpu) and a 52mm thick 360mm AIO, which would normally be installed on the inside of the front panel... Might have to get a bigger case, or go for a 280mm AIO which could be installed at the top of that case rather than the front?
Edit: ignore, specs have separate radiator clearance, so should be fine I think...
Edit 2: actually, manual makes it look like the radiator clearance does eat into the gpu clearance, so might actually be an issue.

I'm not sure so might be worth looking up, but that EXPO RAM may not have xmp profiles on it, so could potentially be a bit more work to get it running smoothly with an Intel cpu? Seems like most people have found that for gaming purposes RAM speed doesn't make that much difference at the moment, so might be worth just getting a cheaper kit? Eg this 5600mhz one with XMP profiles rather than EXPO, for £170:

TeamGroup Vulcan 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C36 5600MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (FLBD532G5600HC36BDC01)

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[jjhiggy]

My guys! Thank you so much I appreciate every comment and so much knowledge. I will switch the PSU and RAM the price differences should offset themselves and 6000MHz is probably overkill anyway.

1. I’ll upgrade case - Corsair 4000D or NZXT …..??

2. Thoughts on paying extra for the 6950? Waste of £200?

 

[Tetras]

2. Thoughts on paying extra for the 6950? Waste of £200?

I wouldn't, the difference is pretty small from what I've seen.

 

[Craig_d1]

My guys! Thank you so much I appreciate every comment and so much knowledge. I will switch the PSU and RAM the price differences should offset themselves and 6000MHz is probably overkill anyway.

1. I’ll upgrade case - Corsair 4000D or NZXT …..??

2. Thoughts on paying extra for the 6950? Waste of £200?

looking at hardware unboxed review of 6950xt

12 game av at 1440p
6950xt 149fps
6900xt 137fps
6800xt 129fps

3090ti 149fps
3090 138fps
3080ti 134fps
3080 123fps..that was 10gb version, 12gb should sit closer to 3080ti

4k
6950xt 85fps
6900xt 76fps
6800xt 70fps

3090ti 91fps
3090 82fps
3080ti 80fps
3080 72fps

didn't put 1080p as guessing with a high end card you would prob be 1440p or above

only a month away from 7900xtx release

 

[GreatAuk]

Case-wise while the 4000D is a nice case, I think there's potentially the same sort of problem with it - that gpu is just very large at the end of the day, and if you want to put a 360mm AIO in the case then it either needs to be even longer so there's room for both the gpu length and aio thickness, or it needs to have room to top-mount the radiator (which both mean quite a large case). 5000D would be fine though I think, and is a very nice case - might be my choice (although is quite expensive!).

These should have plenty of room though, for example:

Phanteks Eclipse P500 Air ATX Case Tempered Glass Satin Black

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Lian Li Lancool III RGB Full Tower PC Case - Black

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Phanteks Eclipse P600S Glass Silent Midi Tower Case - Black

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be quiet! Silent Base 802 Midi Tower Case - White Window

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Corsair 5000D Airflow Tempered Glass Mid-Tower - Black CC-9011210-WW

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Would fit with top mounted aio:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/koli...b-midi-tower-gaming-case-black-ca-06q-kk.html


Not looked that much at cases recently and there are loads of options, so probably other good / better options too.

 

[jjhiggy]

looking at hardware unboxed review of 6950xt

12 game av at 1440p
6950xt 149fps
6900xt 137fps
6800xt 129fps

3090ti 149fps
3090 138fps
3080ti 134fps
3080 123fps..that was 10gb version, 12gb should sit closer to 3080ti

4k
6950xt 85fps
6900xt 76fps
6800xt 70fps

3090ti 91fps
3090 82fps
3080ti 80fps
3080 72fps

didn't put 1080p as guessing with a high end card you would prob be 1440p or above

only a month away from 7900xtx release

Oh wow! I didn’t expect it to perform as well as the 3080 but I’m really impressed!

7900xtx looks like an absolute beast! Especially with the new features. I do worry that there will be a big price jump.

 

[jjhiggy]

Case-wise while the 4000D is a nice case, I think there's potentially the same sort of problem with it - that gpu is just very large at the end of the day, and if you want to put a 360mm AIO in the case then it either needs to be even longer so there's room for both the gpu length and aio thickness, or it needs to have room to top-mount the radiator (which both mean quite a large case). 5000D would be fine though I think, and is a very nice case - might be my choice (although is quite expensive!).

These should have plenty of room though, for example:

Phanteks Eclipse P500 Air ATX Case Tempered Glass Satin Black

Order Phanteks Eclipse P500 Air ATX Case Tempered Glass Satin Black now online and benefit from fast delivery.

www.overclockers.co.uk

Lian Li Lancool III RGB Full Tower PC Case - Black

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www.overclockers.co.uk

Phanteks Eclipse P600S Glass Silent Midi Tower Case - Black

Order Phanteks Eclipse P600S Glass Silent Midi Tower Case - Black now online and benefit from fast delivery.

www.overclockers.co.uk

be quiet! Silent Base 802 Midi Tower Case - White Window

Order be quiet! Silent Base 802 Midi Tower Case - White Window now online and benefit from fast delivery.

www.overclockers.co.uk

Corsair 5000D Airflow Tempered Glass Mid-Tower - Black CC-9011210-WW

Order Corsair 5000D Airflow Tempered Glass Mid-Tower - Black CC-9011210-WW now online and benefit from fast delivery.

www.overclockers.co.uk

Would fit with top mounted aio:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/koli...b-midi-tower-gaming-case-black-ca-06q-kk.html


Not looked that much at cases recently and there are loads of options, so probably other good / better options too.

If I have to spend the extra to make sure it fits then that’s what I have to do. If this turns into a. 3k build though I blame you allz

 

[GreatAuk]

On the case front someone's actually fitted the card in a 4000D, and proved it does actually fit with an AIO!

(Won't really be possible to mount it the 'preferred' way with tube entering the bottom of the radiator, but in practice all that means is potentially slightly noisier coolant flow if it has / develops over time some air bubbles (I think many / most people have them mounted this way so shouldn't be an issue)).

it fits, just

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it fits, just :)

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Edit: if you're certain you're getting that gpu then I would pull the trigger sooner rather than later - not sure how much stock there is, and £650 is a decent price in today's market I think (especially looking at how much the next gen nvidia cards cost...).