300 GBP tops and insane audio... though it will destroy your neighbours sanity.

I said use good headphones because most people don't have speakers that will go even below 50hz let alone near 30.

Speakers that can do 27hz will cost an arm and a leg without a sub.

In fairness too, it depends on the microphones ability.

I use Presonus Eris 3.5's at my desktop, these are more detailed in the mid range vs the setup with the TV, in fact it might be better pairing them with the sub.
 
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Doesn't matter to me it actually sounds even worse in my soundmagic e80c's.... so much "sound" in the mid that just shouldn't be there/isnt there on my setup. I'll pull my mission sub from under the stairs and re-do it if you want? I promise though that will just make it sound worse still I recon.
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I hear you, your speakers at the desktop pretty much resemble closely how my Presonus Eris's sound, accurate precise audio.
I will have a mess around later and get my AVR receiver out and do a test on the mid range without the sub woofer and see if I can get anything more out of those two speakers, I do have some Denon I can switch up with and see how they play.
 
Blue snowball mic using OBS and placed between the two speakers in the air.



No wonder you lot think I am ************, mic's can't even reproduce what it sounds like, sucks.
 
There is barely any difference recorded back between the TV setup and the Presonus Eris setup.
The TV setup though has much lower bass notes extending from the sound track and the subwoofer adds an obvious presence.
Perhaps the microphone is picking up room faults better than my ears can?


In person this is very balanced, but in the recording it is heavily bass biased.
 
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jaybee said:
I repurposed my old Mission m72s as well recently. Owned from new since about 2003. I used to have the whole m72 surround setup but sold off the front and rears. In my lounge now I have a very low profile (wife friendly) 5.1 setup using Kef T series on the wall and a BK sub hidden away.

These old speakers still sound great. They've survived many a house move despite taking damage externally later touched up. I still have the speaker grills for mine somewhere but think they look better without. For a while they gathered dust in my loft as I just couldn't be doing with yet another bulky, power sapping leftover AVR or Class A/B amp in my summer house/office. Then I came across these class D small 2.0 or 2.1 amps out there. After reading a load of reviews (none are perfect) I settled on this little Loxjie A30 amp. At half volume the m72s absolutely sing more than loud enough to fill the whole shed and the garden if I open the doors, let alone near field stuff, all whilst consuming under 2 watts. Yes I mean when in use 2 watts not standby. Better than any cheap "PC speaker" setup imo.

I've been considering looking at inverting them (as in upside down) to raise the height of the tweeters nearer to my ears, but not sure if the sound field has been designed to have the woofer below the tweeter. May also get some stands. I know they are not perfect being up in a corner and not pointed in perfectly but to me they sound ace and I'm quite happy with them. I have not bunged up the rear ports as I don't run a sub with these and enjoy them dropping and booming as listen to bass heavy stuff sometimes.

The amp does bluetooth if I want, and is connected via usb to a hub/switch which is shared between laptop and desktop. Also has aux input hooked into the echo for Alexa streaming and multiroom duties.

What do you think about running them upside down and/or getting some stands to raise them slightly? Would change the mission logo to match. ;)



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I love the look of the Mission's, suits the setup overall IMO.
 
Main speakers with sub off and no added bass / treble. Their natural sound from this DOUK amp.
Snowball, the recording is much more balanced but to my ears I hear zero bass.
In some parts I do hear distortion, this is the mic not the speakers, I played it a tiny bit too loud.

 
Sounds like the speakers are swimming, I may remove the stuffing I applied inside of the boxes, may be causing this issue.

The swimming effect is not reproducible to my ears, might be a positioning issue.
 
Mains stacked together vertically in middle of the rear wall, swimming effect is reduced.
The factor last here is that this room is essentially a square meaning audio bounces really easily.

 
Ok, I placed my ear next to the speaker and some of that track is not playing as cleanly as I previously thought, though it is not easy to notice.
The part where the drums hit and that *tat tat tat* "It's like a dream" distorts and muddies, I am now changing up my source delivery to see what I can do.
 
The neoteck DAC I am using was being fed a signal through coaxial and I used a standard RCA lead which is not a coaxial cable and thin, that was my issue. Over optical directly from the XBOX One X the issue vanished.
 
I have been using the Pioneer VSX 2014i, the only thing I can say this AVR does better than the douk is give better granular volume control, more options to wire up audio sources.
I have not had to use my heater with it plugged in though, nice in the winter.

I have also hooked up the Denon FC-103 speakers, these are proper hi-fi speakers, they go down to around 45hz or so.

They usually come as a hi-fi package and were hi end high street equipment.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/133920435479?hash=item1f2e47ad17:g:BSAAAOSwlMhhGTO0

The high's are not as harsh as the Focal Auditor speakers, but they are also less able to keep up with such a powerful subwoofer so the sub is now tuned for the denon's and the amp is running with the crossover at 40hz rather than 100hz where the subwoofer was covering the whole lower end.

The Denon's bass is excellent, they are great speakers if you want a rich full sound, they are not accurate but they are a step up from the speakers I was using before if you don't have something to output bass.

I will say the subwoofer does better dedicated to lower bass rather than mid's, but it did really well.

I could always repurpose the focal's and do a quad stereo setup.
The Focal's would be awesome dedicated to just high's, they are made for that kind of output it seems.

Also of note you hear the bass drop better with the sub separated from the mids.... especially under 40hz.. awesome.



Edit... anyone seen these before? These intrigue me as they have the coaxial design of a car speaker but with a separate woofer...

These are Denon SC-M7's
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