3080 performance benchmarks

Stanners · 7 Jan 2021 at 08:56

Argue/debate the subject matter or simply leave the thread. Any personal insults or childish bickering will be met with suspension and a SC strike.

zx128k · 7 Jan 2021 at 09:22

Okay another graph, this time only 10900k cpu as people like to review with a whole lot of different Ryzen CPU's. This time the games have changed a bit but there is still approx. 80.
Sources: The data was ripped from the source. The lowers fps result was favored. The source just had to use a 10900k. Stock, 5GHz or 5.1GHz are common.
https://babeltechreviews.com/vr-war...rtx-3080-15-vr-games-performance-benchmarked/
https://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/dominic-moass/amd-rx-6800-xt-review/8/
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2020-amd-radeon-rx-6800-and-6800-xt-review?page=3
https://www.gpucheck.com/compare/am...-core-i9-10900k-vs-intel-core-i9-10900k/ultra

ICDP · 7 Jan 2021 at 09:54

Donald? Is that you? I was wondering where you went since your failed coup. Have you not learned about spreading lies

That's the spirit, keep gathering fake news and "alternate" or "cherry picked" facts to "prove" why you are right and everyone else is wrong.

Joking asside, your "charts" show what everybody already knows. That the 3080 and 6800XT are very close in rasterisation performance. Yet you are taking a completely different conclussion that the 6800XT sucks.

Woodsta888 · 7 Jan 2021 at 10:20

zx128k said:
Yes his post was just a personal attack to start an argument but they can get away with it.

Yes he's at it again

My view

I bought the 3080 as I game at 4k (and I managed to get one). Green currently for 4k gaming and I'd go AMD for 1440p.

I think the GDDR6X memory helps at very high resolutions which is why maybe 3080's are ahead @ 4k.

1080p is pointless for these cards, though if RT is a must, then maybe you'd want a £700+ gpu.

Great cards from both teams. Odd that they are so close in performance even after both offer a significant jump from previous cards / odd they both released with no stock / scalping and the bitcoin bubble has killed any actual choice of purchase as basically you are lucky to get either in the realms of retail with warranty. I also wonder what the worldwide allocation was, for cards sent out to the many reviewers.

tommybhoy · 7 Jan 2021 at 11:31

If I want to game with 4K texture packs, I'll try if my 8gb doesn't run out, I'm not going to miss out because thats what PC gaming is about, squeezing every last drop out of my hardware to get the best IQ.

What is the point of gathering 80 reviews to state that these cards perform more or less the same?

At this point in time, availability and how much you are getting fleeced is the deal breaker.

Grim5 · 7 Jan 2021 at 11:38

Please do the same data for the 3090 vs 6900xt

Twinz · 7 Jan 2021 at 12:34

If you are gathering a collection of a bunch of different benchmarks, why are you "rejecting" benchmarks when you deem them to be "cherry picked"?

For instance: "Techspot rejected for cherry picking games to benchmark."

What does "cherry picking" have to do with the accuracy of numbers in this context?

ICDP · 7 Jan 2021 at 12:41

Because Techspot picked different cherries than he would pick.

JediFragger · 7 Jan 2021 at 12:42

If this wasn't from an obvious nvidia fanboy it would be worth taking seriously, as it is it's absolutely worthless.

Woodsta888 · 7 Jan 2021 at 12:52

tommybhoy said:
these cards perform more or less the same?

At this point in time, availability and how much you are getting fleeced is the deal breaker.

I think you summed it up with just that. :cool:

K1LaW8tt5 · 7 Jan 2021 at 12:53

Twinz said:
If you are gathering a collection of a bunch of different benchmarks, why are you "rejecting" benchmarks when you deem them to be "cherry picked"?

For instance: "Techspot rejected for cherry picking games to benchmark."

What does "cherry picking" have to do with the accuracy of numbers in this context?

If he applies the same logic to his own report it would also be rejected for cherry picking

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anyway all the graph tells me is that the average difference is <~2% in raster at 1080p.(the reason for some variation in 1080p results is likely due to system/cpu/game engine bottlenecks for each different reviewer)

So what you buy comes down to a couple of simple things.

Availability.
Price after gouging.
The value you put on the additional features for each. (this will be different fro each individual and there is no right or wrong answer)
Then add your personal choice. example someone who has had majority of AMD/Nvidia GPUS will probably not switchover if all of the above comes out close.If its not broke etc etc

I'm not sure what the actual argument/discussion is supposed to be based around.

Wrinkly · 7 Jan 2021 at 13:13

I think both cards offer great legacy rasterisation performance so both tick that box. The problem is that only Nvidia is doing well with RT and AI SS, while AMD has not wanted to talk about it. I was quite prepared to cancel my 3080 order and go red again, but there was no RT bechmarks to be found for AMD at launch and this 'we are working on it' excuse when talking about AI SS is laughable.

AMD has targeted the average Joe this round in the knowledge Joe doesn't know about RT and AI SS and will just go for the cheaper card. It looks to me that AMD is setting itself up for a fall again as angry Joes won't stick with AMD next round.

Woodsta888 said:
I bought the 3080 as I game at 4k (and I managed to get one). Green currently for 4k gaming and I'd go AMD for 1440p.

I think the GDDR6X memory helps at very high resolutions which is why maybe 3080's are ahead @ 4k.

1080p is pointless for these cards, though if RT is a must, then maybe you'd want a £700+ gpu.

I'm after the eye-candy so I would have gone for the 3090 If my target resolution was 4k, but I've stuck with 1440p so the 3080 was perfect. I've seen videos showing the 3060 performing well with RT at 1080p so you don't need to spend £700+ on a GPU, of course that is ignoring the scalpers.

If AMD want to compete, while keeping happy customers, they must drop their pricing to reflect poor RT and missing AI SS.

Edit: I'd also say the argument of VRAM being more important hence swaying in favour of AMD is moot as we know both camps are heading towards 5nm. This is a huge shrink from 8nm for Nvidia bringing a huge performance increase, while AMD will require a huge increase in RT performance. I don't see either camp's cards as having any longevity past Lovelace/RDNA3.

Woodsta888 · 7 Jan 2021 at 13:32

I'm after the eye-candy so I would have gone for the 3090 If my target resolution was 4k, but I've stuck with 1440p so the 3080 was perfect. I've seen videos showing the 3060 performing well with RT at 1080p so you don't need to spend £700+ on a GPU, of course that is ignoring the scalpers.

If AMD want to compete, while keeping happy customers, they must drop their pricing to reflect poor RT and missing AI SS.[/QUOTE]

I didn't think there was enough extra perf in the 3090 @ 4k for an extra £5-700 extra (over my £850 3080). But if I hadn't managed to get a 3080 - I'd have probably caved to the 3090 before xmas.

Wrinkly · 7 Jan 2021 at 13:44

Woodsta888 said:
But if I hadn't managed to get a 3080 - I'd have probably caved to the 3090 before xmas.

Same.

Mesai · 7 Jan 2021 at 13:51

Joxeon said:
AMD are back with a competitive product which in turn will push nvidia to give us larger gains in the 4000 series and not another Turing.

This generation you're not really going wrong buying either card as even in the the most accurate benchmarks there is only a few fps difference and what it really boils down to is raytracing.

We will definitely see good gains with the next generation. Nvidia already have some leaks showing decent performance uplift and AMD would have learnt a lot from RDNA2 and what needs improving.

We also have a lot of new features landing on the software side for both companies.

nvidiamd · 7 Jan 2021 at 13:53

nvidiamd said:
Nothing i am just having fun. You are doing a great work, keep digging! I think i've seen a japanese website where the 3080 was ahead like 3% at 1080p.

zx128k said:
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&tl=en&u=https://chimolog.co/bto-gpu-rx-6800-xt/ &prev=search

1080p

1440p

4k

This is why 1080p benchmarks are no longer there on many wibsites.

https://translate.google.com/transl...kaku_gpu/radeon-rx6800xt/&prev=search&pto=aue

Can't believe you went and searched the japanese websites. I was just joking but i must say i admire your dedication.

MasterOC · 7 Jan 2021 at 14:09

So where would we stand at in-between res, say 3440x1440 òr alike.

Mesai · 7 Jan 2021 at 14:16

MasterOC said:
So where would we stand at in-between res, say 3440x1440 òr alike.

The 3080 supposedly pulls ahead at 4K so maybe that’s the right choice.

Doubt you’d have an issue with either card. AMD are behind on the software side, but they’ve proven that they can develop performant tools, it just takes time.

Gregster · 7 Jan 2021 at 14:30

In fairness, if you like RT, go NVidia, if you don't, go AMD. Either will do you proud at 4K or even 1080P and will keep you gaming for a few years.

turbot1984 · 7 Jan 2021 at 14:37

Thanks, thats an interesting post. Seeing the 6800XT at 2080 Super level (Control 4K RT) is a surprise for sure, particularly when you look at how good the new Ryzens are. All things considered, us punters should have £600 3080s and £550 6800xts freely available like the old days ... alas not.