3570k Vs 2500k?

[peps1]

Looking for a i5 K CPU and was wondering what people think regards 3570k or a 2500k.

from what iv read the 2500 can be clocked harder and cost less?

But is a 3570 going to leave me more future proofed Z77 board?

 

[iBSOD]

You can still get a Z77 board with a 2500k. I'd get whatever is cheapest, they're both pretty much the same

 

[RJC]

Clock for clock IB is slightly faster, but personally I would choose IB.

 

[setter]

Ib will run a bit hotter though once you start overclocking.

 

[shadow_boxer]

No real upgrade path with either unless you go down the route of an i7 if you want hyperthreading. If you really want to push the overclocks and you've got custom watercooling you could get an i5-2500K but otherwise i would go for Ivy.

 

[BrianB]

I would go for Ivy (I did go for Ivy). I wouldn't regret not having an Ivy if I had a 2500K. Ivy is newer, that's why I got it.

 

[peps1]

No real upgrade path with either unless you go down the route of an i7 if you want hyperthreading. If you really want to push the overclocks and you've got custom watercooling you could get an i5-2500K but otherwise i would go for Ivy.

Is there any upgrade paths any-more, or am I always going to be stuck switching out MOBO with CPU upgrades

 

[Martini1991]

Is there any upgrade paths any-more, or am I always going to be stuck switching out MOBO with CPU upgrades

For most significant CPU upgrades, that's pretty much the way these days.
That said, an i5 3570k or 2500k OC'ed will last a long time.
Bearing in mind they've got over 40% left in the tank and are handling stuff fine at stock.
CPU progression isn't all that fast at all really, I mean from the Core 2 quad's to IB's, I think IPC's somewhere in the region of 35% better (Although newer architecture and instruction sets can give significant advantages that result in higher performance gains than you'd typically get consistently)

 

[Peter Tsang]

What sort of games are most CPU bound one of these days?

 

[WingZero30]

For most significant CPU upgrades, that's pretty much the way these days.
That said, an i5 3570k or 2500k OC'ed will last a long time.
Bearing in mind they've got over 40% left in the tank and are handling stuff fine at stock.
CPU progression isn't all that fast at all really, I mean from the Core 2 quad's to IB's, I think IPC's somewhere in the region of 350% better (Although newer architecture and instruction sets can give significant advantages that result in higher performance gains than you'd typically get consistently)

Do you mean that IB is around 3.5x faster than C2Q? That would make the performance leap huge. I had thought the IB performance increase was around 50% over C2Q at same clock speed?

What sort of games are most CPU bound one of these days?

Battlefield 3 multiplayer is one of them

 

[setter]

Battlefield 3 multiplayer is one of them

Ive personally found bf3 to be a bit less cpu dependent than bfbc2.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Do you mean that IB is around 3.5x faster than C2Q? That would make the performance leap huge. I had thought the IB performance increase was around 50% over C2Q at same clock speed?

Actually it is between 10% to 50% going from a first generation Core2 to SB:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/processor-architecture-benchmark,2974.html

Remember,things like DDR3 have also helped a bit.

 

[Martini1991]

Oh Jesus, I didn't realise I put that 0 on.
I meant 35%

Ergo my point, things haven't progressed that much, with the extra 40% in the i5, it's reasonable to assume it'll be a solid performer for quite some time.

 

[C64]

Also worth noting is that pc gaming is still going to be held back by the consoles and even the next generation ps4 and xbox 720 even my i5-750 @ 4.2ghz is overkill for most games as long as your gpu isn't bottlenecked is the main thing.

 

[biuro74]

I would go for Ivy (I did go for Ivy). I wouldn't regret not having an Ivy if I had a 2500K. Ivy is newer, that's why I got it.

LOL, stereotype that people should fight with
If 2500K is being bought as brand new in a box, so there's no difference. Newer might mean "technological process" which DOESN''T HAVE TO BE BETTER in every case. And this is such case now

 

[ubersonic]

If your planning to overclock then buy the cheaper one, both the 2500k and the 3570k will overclock to ~ equal performance levels (meaning that although IB is faster at the same speed than SB is it will hit the heat wall first which allows SB to close up the gap before hitting its own wall).

As for upgrades the 2500k and 3570k are the best i5's on the Z68/Z77, Haswell will use a different socket so the only CPU upgrades available will be to the i7 s1155 chips. Both chips will work in a Z68 or a Z77, the difference is with the 3570k and the Z77 you get some extra features but its up to you to decide if you need them.

 

[new numa hey]

Go with the 3570k. No real reason to go with the 2500k.

 

[Kaapstad]

Is there any upgrade paths any-more, or am I always going to be stuck switching out MOBO with CPU upgrades

You could always go SB-E get your self an X79 mobo and 3930k.

Yes its a bit expensive but it has more than enough performance to rival anything in the way of mainstream CPUs to be released in the near future like Haswell. When you take into consideration the cost of new CPUs/Mobo/Memory when you upgrade (SB to IB to Haswell to ?) the 3930k could actually save you money over 5 years.

How many people are still using i7 920s which still play games and do most things to a high standard who have not had to upgrade.

 

[kitch9]

Go with the 3570k. No real reason to go with the 2500k.

Other than it's cooler, cheaper and performs similarly?

 

[Bacon?]

Other than it's cooler, cheaper and performs similarly?

Its only cooler after Ivy goes over a 4.5 overclock and how many people realistically have a constant stable 5.0 overclock on a 2500K