3700X or 5600X?

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Please close doesn't need a year later bump to a question that's obviously solved hence the spec in my sig

 

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I think it's for gaming, got to be the 5600X.

was my original choice, but the extra 2 cores of the 3700X tempt me for future proofing?

 

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5600X is a faster gaming CPU, the extra cores don't matter if they're significantly slower, look at how the 4 core i3-12100 easily beats an 8 core Ryzen 2700X.

Ah nice! Sorry I'm a bit flakey... I've not built a gaming rig since 2008 lol, been messing around with women, cars and that then lol that led to drift cars and yeah hello 15 years later! I've just ran mac's for everything else as I do prefer unix or closed source bsd if we're being technical lol.

 

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I'd go back to the women and cars if I were you, probably cheaper than PC gaming nowadays But, if you want a background on the current arguments 'n stuff, watch this video:

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Haha mate trust me maintaining a drift car, affording to break/replace/improve/tune parts and run it on 99 octane with silly short ratio diff/gearbox ratios and a rich remap is FAR more expensive than even women lmfao.

I recently sold the last drift car (my 5th) and tried to build a chilled but nice looking daily driven car... yeah 11 grand later in parts that hasn't worked and I still haven't finished lol and none of that includes labour, do it all myself or at worst a mate will help with say welding lol.

So yeah I need all 3 so I have something to enjoy when I break parts on the car as usual haha, plus I miss the aesthetic of using a keyboard and mouse, love my consoles and big tv but it's nice to have both.

I'll stick with the 5600x and next year or year after maybe acquire a cheap 5700x and a dark rock pro 4 or something hsf wise then! cheers mate, that video confirmed what I thought I might of knew haha!

 

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Thanks guys!
I am very tempted to get a 5700x just so I get the optimum bang per buck out of both worlds whilst retaining a 65w tdp and a little bonus extra cores for longevity

 

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Tbh that's what I'd have suggested if it were in budget, but you did specifiy 3700x v 5600x. I've got a 5700x and it's a great chip, it's basically a better engineered 5800x. The extra couple of cores will probably come in handy down the line, and I think you'll be set for gaming on AM4 for years with either chip. AM5 is ridiclulously expensive and offers 90% of gamers very little for such a huge investment. And later you could always throw in a used 5800x3d if you needed to...keeping your platform viable for as long as possible as cheaply as possible.

By the time AM4 is struggling, AM6 will be out.

Yeah mate I totally agree! I'd majorly considered it but was put off by the fact despite 65w tdp they didn't include a hsf which would have helped me get started and afford the system and acquire a hsf as required at a later date, but screw it Dark Rock Pro 4 and 5700X - just means waiting another month to get it vs when I was going to.
Before the energy crisis I did want a 5800x so this is a nice go between and as you say there's not 'that much' in it and I retain a lower power use

 

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There's very litle between the 7 and 8. Another month's wait for something you're going to use for 5 years is nothing.

exactly mate

You don't need a Dark Rock Pro 4 for something like a 5700X. You can pick up a Peerless Assassin 5 heatpipe version for around £20-25 and it's more than up to the task. As are multiple other coolers in the price range.

true, but i'll be able to run the fans very quietly and it'll never throttle

 

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quick question... was planning to go for 32gb (2x16) of ddr4 3600mhz cas 16... Is this ideal or should I just go for 3200mhz?

 

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Which it would easily do with the HSF in question.

that does tempt me, will I want 1 or 2 fans as there's 2 different versions... I did look at a review and seems the 2nd fan only lowers a 5600x for example by 2 degrees :\ seems pretty pathetic for a second fan?

 

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I'd just go with whichever is cheapest personally.

I take it the PA5 is known as the 120se then not the 5? as 5 only brings up 120se when I search?

Also I was going for 32gb 2x16gb of 3600mhz cas 16... is this ideal for the 5700x or should I just get 3200mhz?

 

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There's a bunch of versions, give me a tick and I'll double check as I'm on my phone.

If there's very little price difference get the 3600/c16, but I wouldn't say it's worth a lot more than running a 3200mhz kit.

Update: I should have linked you info on the Thermalright Assassin King 120 SE, it's a fantastic piece of kit for the price and more than up to the task.

thanks mate
hoping that is the right one and it's dual fan so may as well?

I think I'll just stick with the 3600mhz then as it's so cheap anyway

 

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You're not allowed to link competitors mate, as this forum is owned and operated by the OCUK store.

The Peerless Assassin is a fantastic HSF, but the Assassin King 120SE for £20 will be ample for a 5700X. Either way they're both a good deal cheaper than a Dark Rock Pro 4 or something similar from the likes of Noctua.

edited...
that was the dual fan jobbie, I cannot for the life of me find the single fan one for £20... but yeah for £35.90 for that dual fan one, screw it that'll be fine, nice one!

 

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Jumping in on the back of this thread.

I got a workstation with a 3700x in it. Building a pc for the parents and was going to give them my spare 5600x.

However I was thinking maybe to switch the 5600x in for my 3700x and give them that

I do use this pc for much other than very light gaming (Football Manager), word processing and of course browsing.

Do you think the 5600x will give a better browsing experience?

Nope, you can pretty much browse on anything these days that's 5-10 years old, I have a mid 2008 macbook pro that has a pathetic Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz and IIRC a 9600M GPU, and it can still play 720P youtube fine and browsing is a doddle.

 

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no the 5xxx is better.
AMD 3XXX as the same IPC as intel first gen skylake, it wasent untill the 5XXX chips that AMD got good(fast)

He's asking for web browsing for his parents, it'll make zero difference for that if he gives them the 3700X...

 

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FWIW, I chose a 5700x in the end, it's in my sig. This thread doesn't need a bump from last year lol.

 

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Yep good choice a lot better than the 3600x imo

I have non 3600 non x in my 2nd rig, a mitx, so I nearly have both haha