3800X or 9900K

[PieEater]

I have £600 to spend on a board and CPU burning a hole in my pocket to replace my 2700K. usage is mostly gaming but with some photo / video editing.

I was planning on the Ryzen 2 12 core CPU assuming that pricing would be in line with the leaks ~£400 so giving me ~£200 left for the motherboard, but as that's not the case I'm now looking at the 8/16 3800x instead.

One thing that puts me off the x570 boards is the active cooling and to be honest I don't need PCIE 4.0.

So I'm now wandering if I shouldn't just spend an extra ~£50 and get a 9900K, no active cooling, I can upgrade now, and I'm thinking gaming performance on the 9900K is still going to be better than on the new AMD.

Thoughts?

 

[PieEater]

Well.... Next gen consoles are going to be 8 core with ray tracing. I have to say at this stage I think that's a better bet.

Thanks for the reply but I guess I've not made it clear that my choice is between the 8/16 3800X or the 8/16 9900K as the 12/24 3900X is out of my price range.

 

[PieEater]

I honestly don't think the active cooling is an issue, and will probably only be needed when using nvme raid.

Yeah I figured the same, there are leaks that the active cooling is configurable and I don't foresee me ever needing to turn it on but it is a point of failure and I'm guessing it will add to the cost of the motherboards.

 

[PieEater]

It’s not , the 3800k matches it for less...
That why they are releasing the 9900ks

I'm not convinced that the 3800K will match the 9900K in gaming, if it could I'm sure there would have been more than the single tweaked benchmark to prove this in the keynote.

What the hell do you lot see in the 9900?
I see a pushed past the max chip with huge heat and power problems on an old platform with no future and the best of all so badly compromised with security it doubles as swiss cheese. Exceptionally naive to be buying into such a bad product when you will have options elsewhere especially for the stupid money intel wants.

I see the current fastest hyper-threaded gaming CPU, as far as the platform goes AMD have only said AM4 will last until 2020 so AM5 could be out in 6 months, The 9xxx CPU's have some hardware mitigation of the security issues and I don't feel my PC is vulnerable to them anyhow given the usage of my PC and the security steps I take.

@PieEater what resolution are you gaming at?

A question to everyone/anyone: would there be an advantage in buying an x570 mobo and pairing it with the 2700x until the Zen2 refresh comes along? I feel that this new series is ideal for anyone upgrading from older platforms, but as an upgrade from 2700x are the gains really worth it?

Incidentally, I also feel Intel needs to be ruled out.

I'm gaming at 1440p with a GTX1070.

I'd like comments on a twist to the above seeing as I don't want active cooling, how about I buy a X470 Taichi and 2600X now then sell the 2600X when the 3900X comes down in price and put the 3900X in the X470 board? I get something shiney to play with now thats better than my 2700K and the chip and passively cooled board I actually want later.

Was that the now crippled 9900K they were going against though with the 3800X ?, as once you get the vulnerability patches on, its performance drops off a cliff.

I don't believe the 9xxxx series are affected as much as older CPU's as Intel have added hardware level mitigation, happy to be told otherwise.

 

[PieEater]

So what's the deal with ps5?

Will I be getting triple digit FPS, 1440p with full raytracing?

Of more interest to me would be the ability to access and play games held in my Steam / Ubisoft / Origen / Epic libraries as well as running the Windows software I need for photo and video editing as well as plug & play for peripherals such as card readers, scanners, printers, DVD burners etc. If that's not going to happen then can we keep discussion of the PS5 out of this thread as it's irrelevant.

 

[PieEater]

What is driving the upgrade from the 2700x?

2700K !!! It's been a great system for the last 8+ years but it's showing signs of needing a refresh plus She Who Must Be Obeyed has given the OK for an upgrade so the timing is right.

 

[PieEater]

Please can we not derail my thread with discussions of the PS5 - thanks.

 

[PieEater]

Thanks everyone for the your contributions (apart from the PS5 comments ) after having taken all the advice on board and doing my own research I'll be going the AMD route. I'm not convinced that the 3800 will be able to match the 9900 in outright gaming performance but I don't think the difference will be significant and it's not a dead end platform with a bunch of security issues. I think I'll invest in a x570 taichi and get the best 3000 series chip I can afford with a view to potentially upgrading later down the line.