3d monitors

If you are happy to stick with a 60Hz monitor, then this is a good one.


For 120Hz this is the cheapest AFAIK and within your budget. It is a nice bit of kit, but there is no secondary video input - so you can't have more than one video source plugged in.

This one is 1080p, 24in and 120Hz, but it is over budget and I have heard many people have a problem with it being noisy.


Also, if you are interested in trying an IPS monitor - this one is excellent.
 
I'd avoid the Acer unless you get to try it before buying - a lot of people I know who have bought one of those have been unhappy with it.

The 2233rz is excellent for gaming if you don't mind 1680x1050 res - personally I prefer it for FPS games over 1920x.
 
Thank you for those options.

I have heard about IPS panels but dont no much more than that.
What would i benefit more from? the Dell IPS panelled one or going with the samsung 120hz 3d jobby
 
This article outlines the benefits and drawbacks of the different panel types.

For reference, the Samsung BH2430 and all the 120Hz monitors use TN panels, while the Dell U2311H uses an E-IPS panel.

Also, here is an in-depth review of the Dell U2311H.
 
Thanks.
In your opinion would i benefit more from the Dell ISP panel, or am i better going for the smoother Samsung.

Does the samsung display in 1920 res when not in 3d mode?
 
I used to have a 3D monitor before I sold it on. RUBBISH! IMHO before anyone gets on their high horse

The 120hz does seem smoother than 60hz but not that much

Unfortunately the 3D Vision just doesn't work. Might be worth having a read on the nvidia forums for hundreds of issues. What did it for me was Batman Arkham Asylum. This was the first game I tried on 3D and though 'this isn't right, maybe the game is not made for 3D' That was until I went to the nvidia site and saw it listed on their made for 3D Vision list :eek:

1. Glasses loose sync causing flashing (this is the main problem and STILL ongoing with nvidia)

2. The DOF (depth of field) can be changed manually but just causes another element of frustration. You can't get it right. 3D Profiles are available but don't really fix anything.

3. 10-20% of the time the game won't kick into 3D mode so you have to keep restarting

4. 100% of games have issues, even if some are only minor. The biggest flaw is that parts of graphics are still rendered in 2D making the whole thing look weird

Waste of money!

I'm sure in a couple of years time they will sort all the problems and it will be great
 
Although our experience with them hasn't been quite that problematic, we are inclined to agree with you on the 'smoothness' aspect. It's a bit of a misnomer that 120Hz will give you a much smoother experience than any 60Hz monitor. Although the framerate will be higher when v-sync is enabled, a smooth 60fps on most applications will offer a very smooth experience provided other conditions are met. A few things that some of the better 60Hz panels and pretty much all 120Hz panel have in common are - very low input lag and aggressive response time compensation algorithms. This generally leads to a fluid experience but it is one that is by no means exclusive to 120Hz panels.

One thing to consider is that if the framerate isn't expected to exceed 120Hz (turn up the visuals if it is) in an application then you can disable V-sync and triple buffering without getting nasty artifacts. This gets rid of an extra layer or two of processing and will reduce the input lag even further (although the difference may not be very perceptible). Even 120Hz panels are limited by their 2ms grey to grey response times (and even higher ISO response times) so compared to upcoming technologies such as OLED they are not so special ;).
 
Great thanks for the input.
Given your opinions i think i am swaying to the Dell U2311H.
I dont have the budget currently to upgrade my GPU or buy the shutter glasses, so i would be paying for a feature i wouldnt neccessarily be using straight away. By the time i upgraded i would imagine that the technology will have moved on, for example higher resolutions.

Ontop of this 1920x1080 seems to be the industry standard now, which the Samsung doesnt use
Furthermore the Dell is a little bigger (wont feel too much smaller than my 26inch tv/monitor currently. Also if i choose to watch a dvd away from my desk i.e. on my bed because of the IPS panel the viewing angles will be much better than the TN Samsung.

Would you agree on my reasoning? Is there any other monitors similar to the Dell that are worth considering? or is the Dell U2311H the one to go for in my price bracket
 
smithy1988 said:
Great thanks for the input.
Given your opinions i think i am swaying to the Dell U2311H.
I dont have the budget currently to upgrade my GPU or buy the shutter glasses, so i would be paying for a feature i wouldnt neccessarily be using straight away. By the time i upgraded i would imagine that the technology will have moved on, for example higher resolutions.

Ontop of this 1920x1080 seems to be the industry standard now, which the Samsung doesnt use
Furthermore the Dell is a little bigger (wont feel too much smaller than my 26inch tv/monitor currently. Also if i choose to watch a dvd away from my desk i.e. on my bed because of the IPS panel the viewing angles will be much better than the TN Samsung.

Would you agree on my reasoning? Is there any other monitors similar to the Dell that are worth considering? or is the Dell U2311H the one to go for in my price bracket
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From what cmndr_andi has said in his threads i,d go for the U2311H its the monitor i,m thinking of getting in a few weeks time ,and i,m not a gamer ,but like dvds and the picture is better than a TN panel ..:)
 
Ok I think thats all the convincing I need.

Can I thank you all, especially cmndr_andi and PCM2.

One last question, this particular monitor doesnt have a HDMi cable so is there any particular DVI cable i should be buying? Im guessing it probably wont come with one?
 
glen8 said:
I used to have a 3D monitor before I sold it on. RUBBISH! IMHO before anyone gets on their high horse

The 120hz does seem smoother than 60hz but not that much

Unfortunately the 3D Vision just doesn't work. Might be worth having a read on the nvidia forums for hundreds of issues. What did it for me was Batman Arkham Asylum. This was the first game I tried on 3D and though 'this isn't right, maybe the game is not made for 3D' That was until I went to the nvidia site and saw it listed on their made for 3D Vision list :eek:

1. Glasses loose sync causing flashing (this is the main problem and STILL ongoing with nvidia)

2. The DOF (depth of field) can be changed manually but just causes another element of frustration. You can't get it right. 3D Profiles are available but don't really fix anything.

3. 10-20% of the time the game won't kick into 3D mode so you have to keep restarting

4. 100% of games have issues, even if some are only minor. The biggest flaw is that parts of graphics are still rendered in 2D making the whole thing look weird

Waste of money!

I'm sure in a couple of years time they will sort all the problems and it will be great
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The monitors themselves are not rubbish (well the acer seems a bit hit and miss but thats another story). And Batman is one of the best for showing it off and works correctly - so user error tbh.

I'm not a big fan of 3D Vision - but in my time of using it I never once have had the glasses lose sync, you can easily adjust the DOF to suit your eyes natural focus - if you can't then your eyes just don't "work" right for 3D Vision rather than a problem with 3D Vision itself. Never had any issues with it kicking into 3D mode either - tho sometimes the panel won't come out of the 3D Vision profile (displays 2D normally but the settings are locked in the OSD).

The last point I completely agree with - a LOT of games use rendering to texture of 3D scenes or parts of scenes for post processing and other effects which completely breaks 3D Vision in those games.
 
To coin a well used phrase from the iphone4 thread 'Just because you didn't have a problem doesn't mean the rest of us did' :D Nah, I'm sure there's loads of people really happy with it, I'm just expressing the problems I had.

Doubt it was user error, I mean what could I have done wrong :confused:

I did try to give it the benefit of the doubt but after a few weeks and reading lots of horror stories on the official forum I gave up. That's not to say I won't come back in the future though.

One thing I'd like to see is a well implemented F1 game in 3D :cool:
 
smithy1988 said:
What is the Display port that the Dell is mentioned to have. Should i be using that as a connection rather than a DVI?
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It's a neat little alternative connection. I connected up the U2410 using a displayport cable initially but it killed the sound on my computer for some unknown reason. I would stick with DVI really - the most important thing, image quality, is exactly the same as HDMI/DisplayPort and I never have any issues with DVI cables.
 
Aye, if you are just connecting the PC to the monitor then the DVI is ideal - the cable is included and the image quality will be the same as the Displayport.

However, if you want to connect another video source to the monitor (games console, freeview HD box, blu ray player etc.) then you may want to invest in a displayport cable (to connect up the PC) and a HDMI to DVI adapter (to connect up HDMI devices).
 
I've been using 3D Vision for well over a year now, and dont like playing games in 2D anymore, the only problem and its a small one, is ghosting, but thats the LCD screen's :mad: have a look at the Sony 3D LCD'S in your local showroom, for hometheater!! the Panasonic Plasma's have no ghosting. It is a problem with all LCD panels.

As for the flickering and losing sync, if you move the IR sender to the left handside off the monitor the flickering should stop, well it did for me :D
 
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mrh2019 said:
As for the flickering, if you move the IR sender to the left handside off the monitor the flickering should stop, well it did for me :D
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lol! I've always had mine to the left side of the monitor - never had any problems - just tried putting it in the center after reading this and bingo! flickering.
 
cmndr_andi said:
Aye, if you are just connecting the PC to the monitor then the DVI is ideal - the cable is included and the image quality will be the same as the Displayport.

However, if you want to connect another video source to the monitor (games console, freeview HD box, blu ray player etc.) then you may want to invest in a displayport cable (to connect up the PC) and a HDMI to DVI adapter (to connect up HDMI devices).
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Thanks for that, that makes perfect sense
 
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