3dConnect x1950 problems from fleebay

Squink · 1 Jul 2007 at 01:08

bertybassett said:
thanx for the speedy replies on the replacement PSU.

The PSU is the most unglamorous part of your PC build (if you can use the word 'glamorous' in the same sentence as PC hardware) but from experience and extensive forum reading, it really is the linchpin of your whole build. Don't feel bad about having to spend cash on one. Consider it like spending cash on decent tyres for your car - when the worst comes to the worst, everything relies on them, in the same way that everything on your PC needs a stable power supply.

NickK · 1 Jul 2007 at 03:21

The problem is getting the right power on the right rails.

My X1950XTX would not get past post with my 520W OCZ powerstream. Now I have an Enermax 350W just powering the 1950 and the OCZ powers everything else.

I then decided that this whole thing was rather stupid, hence my recent MacBook Pro purchase - 85W max to power the whole non-gaming tasks!

furnace · 1 Jul 2007 at 12:39

bertybassett said:
just looked at that Enermax power supply and it looks good but I'm not taking any chances so I'm getting the corsair HW 600w, that is if the lead don't fix things.

That's a good PSU. You can get it for a good price too.

IMO, it's always worth spending more on a PSU that's "too powerful". In the future you'll not need to worry about how powerful the card(s) you're sticking in the computer will be

gt_junkie · 1 Jul 2007 at 12:49

Scougar said:
I would just replace the fan lol.

Matthew

I wouldn't as that would invalidate any warranty.

gt

bertybassett · 2 Jul 2007 at 22:45

took the advise and ordered a Corsair HX 520W.

also the old PSU only supported 75w on the PCI-E power line and the manual for the GFX card said your PSU must support more than 75w so there you go proof that the old PSU wasn't up to the job.

Guess I'll know for sure tomorrow as that is when the new PSU arrives.

bertybassett · 3 Jul 2007 at 19:52

I got the new power supply today but it didn't make a single bit of different.

The PC locks up in 3dmark 2006 and s.t.a.l.k.e.r

I also tried the card in my HTPC with the new PSU but again it locked up.

So surely that must mean the card is faulty?

bertybassett · 3 Jul 2007 at 20:00

would there be any warranty with 3dconnect as the card was purchased second hand on eBay?

Nullvoid · 3 Jul 2007 at 20:11

I'm sorry that everyone coerced you into buying a psu :/

All that changed in his system was the graphics card yet you all decided the psu was at fault? Even with 2 12v rails of 16A and 18A?

The x1950 owner probably tried to overclock the card into submission and, upon encountering artifacts galore, decided to flog it on ebay...much to berty's ill fortune

bertybassett · 3 Jul 2007 at 20:17

I really was suspecting the GFX card all a long because I had purchased the power supply less than 5 months ago and at the time I did a lot of searching on PSUs and choose that over all the other major brands as the output was almost the same but the North-Q had almost silent cooling 12Db.

I didn't care about efficiency or out

bertybassett · 3 Jul 2007 at 20:23

Time to report this to the guy I purchased it from and get my money back.

spookywillow · 4 Jul 2007 at 00:17

bertybassett said:
Also 65C was when it stopped working.

if its a x1950 PRO then thats too high m8, mine stops at that temp roughly too, i usually get reboots tho.

set the fan to 100% with ati tray tools and make sure the heatsink is clean.

also theres a few black chips on the card (same side as heatsink) by the power connector, one of them the pulse chip, these get very hot and need heatsinking if they aren't already ( pulse chip may not if its cool enough)

bertybassett · 4 Jul 2007 at 00:52

sounds like some good advice about heat sinking everything.

Can anyone confirm what the top end for temp on this card is? you know the max temp it can be before it starts to go wrong.

SkeeterUK · 4 Jul 2007 at 02:08

Well most gfx cards are capable of reaching up to 80c at full load no problem. Least i think thats what i read about temps for cards like 6800 and x1950pro ish.

spookywillow · 4 Jul 2007 at 09:19

yes 80 is around their rated max, some even go higher but like mine and many many other 1950pro's around 65c seems to be the max stable temp.

the little chips at the back f the card are what is causing most people problems, many had to send cards back cos they were overheating and a few manufacturers changed the heatsink to avoid this

bloodline76 · 4 Jul 2007 at 09:57

spookywillow said:
if its a x1950 PRO then thats too high m8, mine stops at that temp roughly too, i usually get reboots tho.

set the fan to 100% with ati tray tools and make sure the heatsink is clean.

also theres a few black chips on the card (same side as heatsink) by the power connector, one of them the pulse chip, these get very hot and need heatsinking if they aren't already ( pulse chip may not if its cool enough)

I have a 550w true power PSU and was thinking it was something to do with that also.

I have a molex cable for this, do i need to add certain connection cables as some have a better response than others. Can I check by the colour of the cable of something like that?

how do you change the fan speed on the ati tray? Do you need a down load? Is this the one i need? ATI Tray Tools 1.3.6.1042

How do you heatsink these components?

I have a AGP 1950pro and also started gettting the recovery message. Seems to hate CS!

Pulsar_GTI · 4 Jul 2007 at 10:51

This site is very helpful for calculating how much power you need for your set-up http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp wish i could have let you know sooner

bloodline76 · 4 Jul 2007 at 12:16

Says 378 needed.

What I would like to know is are some connectors more powerful than others?

Should I be looking for an cable codes on the wires that I am trying to connect the AGP too?

Thanks

bertybassett · 4 Jul 2007 at 13:30

says 239w for me. I believe it should be lower too because I'm on a M-ATX board and this was not on that list.

bertybassett · 4 Jul 2007 at 13:33

or 316w when overclocked to 2700.

james.miller · 4 Jul 2007 at 13:36

i would never have suggest you go and buy a new psu, especially concidering:

bertybassett said:
also the old PSU only supported 75w on the PCI-E power line and the manual for the GFX card said your PSU must support more than 75w so there you go proof that the old PSU wasn't up to the job.

That statement is so wrong. 6 pin pci-e connectes are designed to supply 75w, its not your psu that's limited at all. its the design specs. thats why nvidia 8800gtx's have two 6 pin pci-e connectors because of the power they draw. more than 75w means two connectors are needed.

Currently both ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT and Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTX/Ultra fit into present PCI Express 1.1/1.0a specification. As is known, according to PCI Express 1.0a standards, a device that consumes maximum of 150W should consume maximum 75W from the mainboard’s slot and maximum 75W from power supply unit’s PCI Express connector. The GeForce 8800 GTX/Ultra has power consumption of about 130W and while it devours more than 80W of power from power supply unit (PSU), it uses two connectors, which means that there should be no problems. The Radeon HD 2900 XT consumes approximately 160W and uses one 6-pin and one 8-pin connectors while sucking up to approximately 110W from a PSU, according to measurements by X-bit labs. However, exact specifications for graphics cards that consume more than 150W and more than 75W from PCI Express connector are not defined.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20070522115634.html

Its a bit late but nobody should have suggest you go and buy a new psu so quickly.

Pulsar_GTI said:
This site is very helpful for calculating how much power you need for your set-up http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp wish i could have let you know sooner

all these psu calculators are bs as well. my whole pc draws 350w at load, measured at the mains. "Recommended PSU Wattage: 660w". yeah ok lol