3K Gaming PC Build - need ideas / suggestions

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Hey y'all.

I had a nice system custom made with you guys around 5-6 years ago. Works fine to this date, I just started a new job and wish to upgrade to get up to speed again for the next 3-4-5 years!

I am thinking of a high-end system with Ryzen and either the new NVIDIA series or the new AMD series later this year.

I seen this build and I really loved it. Anyone would be able to say how much this would cost through OCUK - built for me?

I am thinkinf of a build of this type for the PC. I really love the white and black vibe!

 

[xSHiFTx]

Bump!

 

[xSHiFTx]

Can you wait as nvidia 3080 is the to be released in September.

Is this a gaming pc build, what resolution and mHz monitor do you game at.

Helps if you have a budget in mind.

Hey - I am certaintly going to wait that time for sure.

I really just want to do a black n white theme build for sure this time. I think I'll pick the parts and get a build like that rather than use the Configurator as that lacks a LOT of options..

It is fully a high end 1440P gaming machine yes. I'd probably just do 1440 and 144Hz which seems to be the new "norm" - when I did my old one it was 1080/60 haha.

 

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If your budget allows it, look at Threadripper CPUs for the extra PCI Express lanes.

Well, I do not need to go as extreme. Isn't a Threadripper like 3 grand itself? My entire budget will be around 3 grand - plus gaming only, so I thought even a Ryzen 9 would be too much perhaps..

 

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If you really like the build you posted research what they used e.g case, fans,etc but where the hell is the psu?

I am unsure about that myself! That is why I opened the topic. I have not looked at PC hardware for 3 years now I think.. and I really don't know much about current-gen. Apart from a new GPU from AMD and NVIDIA later this year, I know I'll get a Ryzen CPU for sure. That is all I know.. bit of a noob again!

 

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I found it in a giveaway site - not for the build, just for how amazing it looked.

https://ultimatepcgiveaways.co.uk/shop/lian-li-rtx-2080-super-pc-bundle

It's an RTX 2080 build with an Intel CPU. So I'd slightly modify this. I love the cooler. Although I heard good thing about the NZXT AIO coolers too, the X63 and Z63. Cheaper than the ROG and AORUS ones.

 

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Only the big one; the 24-core Threadripper is £1399.

Yeah, I mean.. I have an i7-4790K and even that still runs my needs well! I just hardcore game, I use very little processing so I'm torn between a Ryzen 7 or 9 to be fair. But price is not much of a difference so I thought I'd do 9 for future proofing.

 

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Why don't you pick the case you like and go from there.

Should change the title to 3k build.

Roger that, did now. Well, I did like this Lian Li white case quite a lot. It seems to have some good funk around it.

I'd like to do white as my last build was all black. Any suggestions for a nice tower that would be the right size of a high end (non watercooled) build like that? AIO would be 240mm I'd say, no more needed as I don't OC extremely.

 

[xSHiFTx]

It's a dual chamber case lol - PSU and drives are in the back



If you're gonna drop 3k or close to on a gaming rig, I'd recommend waiting at least 2-3 months for when Nvidia should be launching their next-gen GPUs.

If you really wanna mirror that build it'll be hella expensive. You could get close, but you pay so much extra money to swap things out etc.

• Case - is the Lian-Li O11 Dynamic XL
• RAM - OcUK don't sell the Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro White model, only the Black colour. I got the White RAM for my PC last year, but had to buy it elsewhere.
• AIO - is the Aorus 360mm AIO with the fans swapped out for Corsair LL120 fans looks like or similar. So very expensive lol as be £190 + £90 (£280 total) for 3 pack of those fans. Or you could go for the Asus Strix LC White 360mm for £60 less which has a white pump too. Or get the Corsair H100i Platinum 240mm for £150 just on a smaller rad.
• PSU cables - the tidy looking power cables, is the CableMod ModMesh it looks like, you'd have to be careful which kit you go for as need to be compatible with PSU you end up with
• Fans - looks like he's side and bottom mounted 3x Corsair LL120 fans, plus another 3 swapped out on the AIO as mentioned before.
• Controller - because of all the Corsair fans, probably has a Corsair Commander Pro in the back but it can only connect 6 fans afaik, or 12 fans on splitters but have no RGB then I believe. Would have to research that more to see best way to have it all on the CCP.

But yeah, not much point speccing when you aren't buying yet anyway - which is good as mentioned new Nvidia GPU should be out in 2-3 months.

Hey, thanks for the insight. I am indeed waiting until something releases. I was always an AMD GPU person but maybe this time I'll see what the high end 3080 will be like and try the green team. CPU will be Ryzen 7/9 - depends.

Well, I may not "mirror" it exactly, but I'd like a vibe along those lines. OCUK does sell the Corsair RGB white RAM sticks now! https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cors...3200mhz-dual-channel-kit-white-my-4c3-cs.html

For AIO - I'd probably go for the new NZXT ones as I heard great things about it.

I'll want 1 x 2 TB or 2 x 1 TB NVMe SSDs, and probably a 1/2TB HDD for good measure.

As for a MOBO - I'll need to see what's decent. They can range from 150-450 quid and I know little about the difference between them to be fair. But CPU / GPU / RAM / AIO I have an idea on what I need.

Case, Motherboard etc are up for question too thus far. I'd like to keep in a nice black and white theme, so ideally a dark-ish motherboard to offset the white (potentially) GPU, RAM sticks and so on.

 

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Threadripper for gaming? Why on earth

Yeah, I'm not sure why - my most expensive component will be the GPU - not the CPU for sure..

 

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Ah didn't see those, albeit only the 3200MHz kit. I usually try spec 3600MHz at least for a high end rig You can get the 3600MHz kits elsewhere.

Yeah I just added a quick edit to my last post, pretty much suggesting what you're after. Wouldn't bother spending anymore than £200 region on mobo. It won't give you any better performance.

I'd try do away from HDDs unless you really need them imo. Nice to try keep it all SSDs storage wise these days, prices have come down and OcUK have some WD drives on sale atm. Can get the 2TB WD Blue SSD for £180. Unless you really need like 4TB+ then yeah go for HDD.



Think Quartz is just being sarcastic and pulling your leg, because of the budget your dropping on a new rig lol

Haha, OK - potentially!

I'll try to go for the new NVMe SSD's, I'll do those as opposed to the SATA type, drive ones. I had mixed experience with them. It's currently cheaper to get 2 x 1TB WD Black NVMe's than 1 x 2TB so I'll just work it out when it comes to it.

Bit of context.. In 2014? I think, I got my last rig. I dropped £1300 on that back then which was a lot for a 1080P rig. It lasted me all this time and more, as I can still play everything I want. However, with a new job, I like to "splash out" once big, rather than keep upgrading gradually every year or so. This'll keep me going for another 4-5 years, which then split by usage and time.. is a really good investment lol. I play a lot! And everything is hella expensive these days. For context, a starting 1440P monitor that's decent is 300-350 quid, like 3 times the price of a standard 1080P monitor back then.. sadly!

 

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I don't disagree with your spending mate, don't have to justify it to me

My last build lasted me 2013 (4670k I think) until August 2019 last year I upgraded which cost me £1.5k. My old rig still runs great for the lad I sold it too after for his game usage.

Now I run 1440p nicely on my new rig, my Dell monitor was a steal I got for £315.

That's similar to my situ then! Just feels weird, spending so much time with a rig, still nothing wrong with it but fancy a change. Probably would only be worth £500 on the market if anyone would buy it.

It's a Corsair 450D Case, an 8GB Sapphire RX580 Nitro, i7-4790K with a Corsair H100 loop, ASRock Z97 MOBO, SuperFlower Gold 650 PSU, 2 x 8GB DDR3, 750GB SSD space etc.

I don't even know if it's sellable.

 

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I don't disagree with your spending mate, don't have to justify it to me

My last build lasted me 2013 (4670k I think) until August 2019 last year I upgraded which cost me £1.5k. My old rig still runs great for the lad I sold it too after for his game usage.

Now I run 1440p nicely on my new rig, my Dell monitor was a steal I got for £315.

Also.. the other reason for creating this topic so early. Anything I should avoid as such? I mean, some good tips as in what's a ripoff or a **** product in the current market? What brands have went downhill since my last build and so on?

You mentioned £200 MOBO is more than satisfactory for example.. I hear a lot about PCIe GEN4? So stuff like that would be good to geta TL;DR on.

 

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Yeah prob £400-500 region, I sold mine with literally same CPU & GPU actually I just checked for £450. I did put it up for £500 at the time (last Aug'19) but dropped it £50 as sold it to a family friend's lad who was after his first gaming PC. He still loves it to this day lol



Long as you get X570 or B550 board, you'll have PCIe 4.0 to future proof. Better to go X570 though with your budget (probably suggest the Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite or the MSI Tomahawk if you don't mind the aesthetics) as X570 has more PCIe lanes - which means it can support more USB, SATA, PCIe devices etc.

Think it's gonna be a while though before PCIe4 GPUs are a thing, because they can't even saturate PCIe3 bandwidth still these days. Atm only NVMe Gen4 drives exist to take advantage (up to 5000Mb read and 4400Mb write speeds). But real world you ain't gonna notice that from a Gen3 NVMe drive doing 2400-3000Mb for instance. That could change in the future though, with next-gen consoles using high speed NVMe drives (PS5 mainly) and game devs using them to enable seamless map/texture loads and boot times etc... That could make it's way slowly over to PC games, likely take longer though due to how custom PCs can be, as opposed to set a BOM that the PS5 will be.

Don't really think anything stands out in my head tbh otherwise. Just that AMD's Ryzen is much better value now these days, and has equal or better performance than the Intel equivalent, for a lot less ££.

Thanks, sounds great. I liked the AORUS motherboard with the light-up RGB hawk / eagle vibe. Same said for ROG STRIX's ones too. One thing that changed from 5-6 years ago. EVERYTHING HAS RBG. Which I guess is good, as you can make a nice uniform colour across the rig from components without using sketchy LED strips.

I also presume this build is a MIDI tower build too, so I should look from that category?

The only "tricky" bit will be to find a potential white design new series GPU. Any idea when AMD is revealed? I'd be tempted to wait, but I heard that would be well after NVIDIA's potential solution. Also - is it only new GPUs this year?

 

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Nvidia's normal release schedule would mean they should announce their Ampere GPUs mid-August and release mid/late September. Starting at the top end models first, then slowly trickle the models down out the coming months after.

AMD keep saying they are releasing their next gen CPUs (Ryzen 4xxx) and RDNA 2 GPUs (very) late this year as well. Not much info other than 40-50% faster fumours than a 2080 Ti. So if true would shake up the GPU market a bit with Nvidia.

I think next-gen consoles is also going to have a big impact. If they launch at £400-500 region and have a 2080 Ti equivalent GPU, AMD/Nvidia are going to lose PC GPU market share to next-gen consoles. So may hopefully (but unlikely) bring GPU prices down.

But the Ryzen 4xxx CPUs will work with the B550 and X570 chipsets, that's already been guaranteed so no issue there if invested beforehand. But then want to upgrade CPU to a 4xxx CPU later.

Some info here
https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/nvidia-ampere
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/7295...s-coming-to-pc-gamers-in-late-2020/index.html
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/7377...50-faster-than-geforce-rtx-2080-ti/index.html

Hmm, I see. That is kind of the articles what I've read or seen as rumours. Next question is I guess, how long to wait and when to just say "**** it" and purchase a rig. My fear is (knowing AMD) that their GPUs are gonna be hella good and less price than the 3080 for example. Like now the 5700XT is an amazing card that costs less than a 2080 but offers like 5 FPS less for half the price.

 

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Your call - could prob be waiting 5-6 months for all the next gen stuff to be released

If you bought now or Sept if Nvidia stick to rumours of Sept release... then AMD 4000 CPUs aren't going to be massive improvements, but you do have choice of MB being compatible, buying 4000 CPU and selling on your old one. Ofc lose some money selling on used and buying next-gen tech, but would help offset cost.

Same applies for GPUs. We've no idea who's rumours are closer to the truth in terms of % performance gains. So you could end up waiting forever for for little reason lol

Personally a Nvidia fan these days, AMD put me off with sketchy drivers. I still think they make good value GPUs though.

yeah, thats the thing sadly. What you buy today is outdated a month later at times.. tech is just a weird area like that. CPU for me is not a massive thing. Like I said my 4790K is probably still not even maxed out on my daily gaming usage haha. I'll just wait for the custom 3080's or whatever they'll be called, observe benchmarks then go for it. First time team Green so hope I don't regret!