4 sticks and a 5600? OK?

Wing-Man · 30 Oct 2022 at 15:16

Im finding when running some programs and games my 16gb ram is getting loaded up so im thinking of moving to 32gb is there any known problems with Ryzen 5600 and 4 sticks?

i have this ram and i like to just drop 2 more sticks in if it can

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JollyJamma · 31 Oct 2022 at 08:31

Ryzen 5000 series actually prefers 4 sticks of RAM and it improves performance overall.

Just make sure that your motherboard supports 4 dimms at 3600 MT/s (mhz is the incorrect indicator here as it runs at 1800 mhz raw and it's doubled, hence DDR buy all memory manufacturers just market it as mhz).

I don't know what RAM is supported by the UNICORN POO as I can't find the QVL list

AMD Ryzen: 4 vs. 2 Sticks of RAM on R5 5600X for Up to 10% Better Performance

This benchmark started as an AMD Ryzen 5000 memory timings and frequency benchmark (like of 3600 vs. 3200, 3800, with FCLK changes), but morphed into a 2x8GB...

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Wing-Man · 31 Oct 2022 at 08:43

thank for the reply, the QVL list for my board is a joke there is about 8 sticks on it

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JollyJamma · 31 Oct 2022 at 08:53

So going by that QVL list, the only kit that can do 32gigs at 3200 MT/s is a Samsung kit which is old and expensive for the speed.

I can't say that you'll definitely be able to run 32gigs at 3600 of RAM with the Vengeance kit, even with manual settings.

You might be better off with a new B550 motherboard and a single kit of 32gigs of RAM.

Joxeon · 31 Oct 2022 at 09:11

Wing-Man said:
thank for the reply, the QVL list for my board is a joke there is about 8 sticks on it

B450 MORTAR MAX | Motherboard | MSI Global

Best AMD AM4 B450 ATX motherboard, Turbo M.2, Extended heatsink, USB 3.2 Gen 2, Mystic Light, MSI MAG

www.msi.com

Motherboard is a MSI B450m Mortar max

Personally I'd go for a dual rank 2x16gb kit.

JollyJamma said:
You might be better off with a new B550 motherboard

That just adds an unnecessary cost especially now the platform is dead end.

Wing-Man · 31 Oct 2022 at 12:10

JollyJamma said:
So going by that QVL list, the only kit that can do 32gigs at 3200 MT/s is a Samsung kit which is old and expensive for the speed.

my 3600mhz kit is also not on the list and it can push to 4200mhz @ XMP timings

Joxeon said:
That just adds an unnecessary cost especially now the platform is dead end.

no why i would go B550 now

i may get a 16gb kit and try if nothing return and get 32gb kit.. after selling what i have the 32gb kit ould only cost the same as a 16gb kit so... i dont know lol

JollyJamma · 31 Oct 2022 at 12:24

my 3600mhz kit is also not on the list and it can push to 4200mhz @ XMP timings

Yes but 4 DIMMS are much harder on the memory controller than 2. If you are happy to manually tweak and set RAM speed/timings then go for the 4 DIMMS setup.

I have a 16gig Micron Rev E kit that can do near 4000 MT/s from it's stock 3200 MT/s but I added an extra 2 DIMMS and it can't boot XMP and I wasn't bothered enough to manually set the speed/timings.

That just adds an unnecessary cost especially now the platform is dead end.

That is a factor, I just think with a cheap B550 motherboard, you could get 4 DIMMS working fine.

i may get a 16gb kit and try if nothing return and get 32gb kit.. after selling what i have the 32gb kit ould only cost the same as a 16gb kit so

I think that's the best option. Do that and see what happens. Just know that you would need to increase your voltages to support the extra DIMMS and you might only get speeds of 3200 or 3000 and not 3600 with 4 DIMMS.

Mr Oxide · 31 Oct 2022 at 14:28

JollyJamma said:
Just know that you would need to increase your voltages to support the extra DIMMS and you might only get speeds of 3200 or 3000 and not 3600 with 4 DIMMS.

This is why I decided to stay with 2x 16GB rather than go for the 4 x 16GB with buying an extra 2 x 16GB kit. I'm at 3800 with a profile(set and forget) and the other 32GB would unlikely get used much, If at all.

Wing-Man · 31 Oct 2022 at 22:23

yer i have decided to go the same route and stick with 2 sticks.

Cyber-Mav · 1 Nov 2022 at 07:43

With 4 sticks i cant be stable above 2733mhz

Wing-Man · 7 Nov 2022 at 11:28

so yer.. i ended up buying another 2 x 8gb as i found it very cheap.
obviously it didnt just boot at XMP.. before i spend a week messing with speeds and timings is there anything people would recommend to try and get XMP going.
Any voltages and so on.

also there is an app called something like memtest but it not the dos one. what it called to test after playing about

mickyflinn · 7 Nov 2022 at 11:44

Wing-Man said:
so yer.. i ended up buying another 2 x 8gb as i found it very cheap.
obviously it didnt just boot at XMP.. before i spend a week messing with speeds and timings is there anything people would recommend to try and get XMP going.
Any voltages and so on.

also there is an app called something like memtest but it not the dos one. what it called to test after playing about

Bios update maybe ?

Wing-Man · 7 Nov 2022 at 22:20

mickyflinn said:
Bios update maybe ?

sorry im now running 4 x 8 gb, thats the problem im having..

im 100% bios is upto days as i needed a new for my 5600 to work

eddiew · 13 Nov 2022 at 22:54

Wing-Man said:
sorry im now running 4 x 8 gb, thats the problem im having..

im 100% bios is upto days as i needed a new for my 5600 to work

4x anything seems to be an under-mentioned issue with memory in general... It never works as advertised

Best thought is drop the frequency or up whatever voltage is for the memory controller on your particular system.

Wing-Man · 14 Nov 2022 at 12:25

eddiew said:
4x anything seems to be an under-mentioned issue with memory in general... It never works as advertised Best thought is drop the frequency or up whatever voltage is for the memory controller on your particular system.

I have decided to return the 2nd set i got a just buy 2 x 16gb, not matter when i did it failed all tested at any speed passed 3200mhz and at 3200mhz it gave boot loop problems with bios reporting OC problems.