£400 Budget Approx

tamzzy said:
dont really think you'd need an aftermarket heatsink. the cpu cannot be overclocked
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And finally.... would it be worth removing the stock thermal paste and applying some Arctic thermal paste in its place? (while still using the stock heatsink). I have read that some people notice reduced temps after doing this. Any reduced heat over a long period would prolong the life of the cpu is my thinking.
 
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tamzzy said:
not worth it. not heard of many (or any) cpus that have failed
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thanks. I also thought that maybe this would mean the fan would need to fire up less, meaning a quieter pc. Their current pc in their lounge is really loud, so for this one, I'm hoping for as quiet as possible.
 
Ok, will do. Thanks for the advice. All the parts arrive tomorrow, so I will start putting it all together then.

Just trying to cover all possible bases :-)

First build, but it looks like everything should be quite straight forward.
 
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Regarding the monitor. I was just thinking about this today.

I am planning to buy a Dell P2214H, which is 22 inch, 1920x1080.

Will the Intel 4400 run this monitor ok? or will I be needing a graphics card?
 
If I was to buy a graphics card for them, just to be safe, so they can make use of the monitor more, watching HD videos etc, which would you recommend?

7770?
 
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tamzzy said:
the integrated gpu will be fine for day-to-day tasks like that (eg watching hd vids, skype).
just not for gaming,
so i'd probably say, i wouldn't recommend a gpu currently...see how you get on first =x
why spend money needlessly eh? (sorry, sensible head on ;p )
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Ok, thanks. I just thought because of the high resolution of the monitor, the onboard graphics might struggle. Sounds like it might be ok. Will give it a test.
 
Everything is now setup. Just one problem with the N200 case.
Firstly, the screw holes for where the SSD goes were not in line so there was no way to screw the SSD in place.

Thought there was a problem with the front LED's, but I had wired it up incorrectly.
 
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I tried both places to install the SSD (at the bottom and in the tray above) but both had the same problem, the screw holes on the case were slightly too high, meaning I couldn't secure the SSD in place. I have ordered a needle file, so when that arrives it should be a simple fix, by just filing out the bottom part of the screw holes and then screwing the SSD in place in the larger holes.

The install was straight forward apart from that. The most annoying part it probably trying to work out how to keep all the cables organised and out of the way as much as possible.

Thanks for all our help.
 
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I recently bought 2 x Noctua NF-F12 PWM fans, as the fans that came with the case were not the quietest and were clicking away.

Most of the time, when I boot up the computer the Noctua fans start up fine. However, quite frequently when the computer starts up, both of the fans look like they are trying to get going, but they don't, and they just keep twitching every so many seconds.

If I give them a little flick, then they start spinning fast as normal. I have tried changing the settings in the bios (pwn slope) to increase the minimum fan speed. I have set this to one of the highest settings (2.5), however, this doesn't stop the problem. On many times when starting up the computer, both the Noctua fans are only twitching repeatedly but not spinning into action, unless I give them a flick.

I am currently using a PWM fan splitter so I can use two fans with one cpu_fan connection.

My best guess would be that the motherboard is struggling to provide enough power to start up these fans properly (although this doesn't explain why the fans start up properly most of the time?). I am going to order one of these parts:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CB-079-AK&tool=3
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CB-031-AK&groupid=1929&catid=153&subcat=

Hopefully, if both the Noctua fans are receiving their power from the psu and are also connected to the cpu_fan connection on the motherboard, they should also still be controllable by the motherboard, but also receiving enough power to stop the problem with the fans not starting up properly.

Has anyone ever seen this problem occur before? would connecting the fans up the psu and motherboard fix this issue? It does seem like the fans are not quite receiving enough power sometimes for them to start properly, but if this is the case, why do the fans still start up just fine a lot of the time also.

Any help would be appreciated!
 
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