4670k vs 4770k

robertchalmers1 · 13 Feb 2014 at 18:58

is it worthwhile paying the 70 quid or so extra to get the 4770k when main uses will be gaming?? undecided whether i should pay the extra and what sort of advantages or gains would there be

Steveocee · 13 Feb 2014 at 18:59

Yes it is worth it.
Newer games will ultimately use more threads. I went i5, regretted it then upgraded to i7.
If you have the money, get the best you can.

robertchalmers1 · 13 Feb 2014 at 19:00

it would mean an extra 5 days to get a cpu if i went for the i7. how many cores does the i7 have????

RJC · 13 Feb 2014 at 19:02

The i7 has 4 cores and 4 hyperthreading cores. (Shows as 8 threads)

robertchalmers1 · 13 Feb 2014 at 19:05

RJC said:
The i7 has 4 cores and 4 hyperthreading cores. (Shows as 8 threads)

that doesnt make any sense to me tbh. is it similair to the fx8350 then? when you have cpu monitor installed it shows as 8 cores even tho its basically 4 cores. or am i completely wrong there

setter · 13 Feb 2014 at 19:05

If only gaming with a single gpu, the 4670k will be grand. If you intend to go sli/xfire at some point there are a few games at present that benefit from the extra threads on the i7.

robertchalmers1 · 13 Feb 2014 at 19:09

setter said:
If only gaming with a single gpu, the 4670k will be grand. If you intend to go sli/xfire at some point there are a few games at present that benefit from the extra threads on the i7.

i will be doing xfire straight away, im looking for best performance possible and hopefully something that will give me 2-3 years before any upgrades are needed

RJC · 13 Feb 2014 at 19:12

robertchalmers1 said:
that doesnt make any sense to me tbh. is it similair to the fx8350 then? when you have cpu monitor installed it shows as 8 cores even tho its basically 4 cores. or am i completely wrong there

Link below shows a rough performance difference at stock between the 2 cpu's (the two you mention above)

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/698?vs=836

The Intel link below shows how Hyperthreading works, explains better than I could

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us...per-threading/hyper-threading-technology.html

Smoogels · 13 Feb 2014 at 19:13

robertchalmers1 said:
i will be doing xfire straight away, im looking for best performance possible and hopefully something that will give me 2-3 years before any upgrades are needed

If you want the best performance possible then the 4770K is the better choice. Having said that, the performance difference of a 4770K vs 4670K depends on:

Your GPUs
The games you want to play
Budget (can the £70 saved go towards something such a a better GPU, CPU cooler or SSD etc?)

The i5 will last 2-3 years easily for gaming on high settings

setter · 13 Feb 2014 at 19:13

Games of note are bf3/4 and crysis 3. With sli gtx 670's and a 3570k, i was getting very high cpu use and very low gpu use. I switched to a 3770k and this really helped. Cpu use was a lot lower and card use much higher. I was able to replicate this on my 4770k with the same cards by turning off hyperthreading in bios.

ndaar · 13 Feb 2014 at 19:18

If you can stretch then get the 4770K as in the future more games may make use of the threads. If the budget is tight get the 4670K its a great chip and certainly good enough for todays games. Depends on what GPU you have as well really.

robertchalmers1 · 13 Feb 2014 at 19:20

i dont mind waiting almost an extra week to get the cpu thats not a problem if it turns out to be the better cpu by far. i was planning to put in 2 x 280x as well

Fallen god · 13 Feb 2014 at 21:56

Or you could buy everything now and pick up the 280x in a week or two. I would recommend getting a i7 if your going xfire.

stuie · 14 Feb 2014 at 13:06

Have you already got the board? Reason I ask is cause for 40 quid difference going true enthusiast like for like on boards is IMHO a no brainer its worth it for the soldered IHS if nothing else

YOUR BASKET
1 x Asus X79 DELUXE Intel X79 (Socket 2011) DDR3 Motherboard £279.95
1 x Intel 4820K 3.70GHz (Ivybridge-E) Socket LGA2011 Processor - Retail (BX80633I74820K) £239.99
Total : £529.54 (includes shipping : £8.00).

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £269.99
1 x Asus Z87-DELUXE Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £209.99
Total : £489.58 (includes shipping : £8.00).

Havana_UK · 14 Feb 2014 at 15:38

stuie said:
Have you already got the board? Reason I ask is cause for 40 quid difference going true enthusiast like for like on boards is IMHO a no brainer its worth it for the soldered IHS if nothing else

YOUR BASKET
1 x Asus X79 DELUXE Intel X79 (Socket 2011) DDR3 Motherboard £279.95
1 x Intel 4820K 3.70GHz (Ivybridge-E) Socket LGA2011 Processor - Retail (BX80633I74820K) £239.99
Total : £529.54 (includes shipping : £8.00).

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £269.99
1 x Asus Z87-DELUXE Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £209.99
Total : £489.58 (includes shipping : £8.00).

You've picked a cripplingly expensive Z87 board there, which skews the comparison making the socket 2011 solution look more favourable. The real difference is likely to be +£140 to go socket 2011 vs 1150. however your point still stands.

X79 (socket 2011) offers:
2 x16 PCIe lanes (Z87 = either 1 x16 or 2 x8)
Quad channel RAM (Z87 = dual channel)

Z87 however is the newer chipset and as such includes native support for the latest technologies.

Unless you've got money to burn, for a gaming system a Z87-based solution (and I would recommend a Gigabyte motherboard for Z87) will perfectly capable.

robertchalmers1 · 14 Feb 2014 at 15:53

i received a gigabyte z87x-oc yesterday from ocuk so will defo be needing an 1150 cpu

robertchalmers1 · 14 Feb 2014 at 15:57

as i said i can afford to get the 4770k just means it would take an extra week to get the cpu that is all i just wasnt sure if the extra expense was worth it for purely gaming. im assuming that the cpu paired with 280x in xfire should be a massive improvement from my old pc which was an fx8350 and 7950 then

stuie · 14 Feb 2014 at 16:07

Havana_UK said:
You've picked a cripplingly expensive Z87 board there, which skews the comparison making the socket 2011 solution look more favourable. The real difference is likely to be +£140 to go socket 2011 vs 1150. however your point still stands.

X79 (socket 2011) offers:
2 x16 PCIe lanes (Z87 = either 1 x16 or 2 x8)
Quad channel RAM (Z87 = dual channel)

Z87 however is the newer chipset and as such includes native support for the latest technologies.

Unless you've got money to burn, for a gaming system a Z87-based solution (and I would recommend a Gigabyte motherboard for Z87) will perfectly capable.

I picked like for like boards if you go in stock cheapest for cheapest the its around 60 quid difference hardly the 140 quid you have quoted and tbh the asrock board is far better

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £269.99
1 x MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £79.99
Total : £359.58 (includes shipping : £8.00).

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel 4820K 3.70GHz (Ivybridge-E) Socket LGA2011 Processor - Retail (BX80633I74820K) £239.99
1 x ASRock X79 Extreme3 Intel X79 (Socket 2011) DDR3 Motherboard £169.99
Total : £419.58 (includes shipping : £8.00).

again making it like for like

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £269.99
1 x ASRock Z87 EXTREME3 Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £104.99
Total : £384.58 (includes shipping : £8.00).

Theres just 35 quid difference

While I agree with you the z87 is a perfectly capable system there are many a person who would happily pay more than the difference for a soldered or delidded chip alone never mind the quad channel ram and extra pci lanes

robertchalmers1 said:
i received a gigabyte z87x-oc yesterday from ocuk so will defo be needing an 1150 cpu

Personally I would DSR the gigabyte board and seriously consider 2011 for the reasons above, If the 3820 was only 35 quid more and was unlocked when I did my rig I wouldnt be on a z77 platform now

robertchalmers1 · 14 Feb 2014 at 16:35

hmmm food for thought however tbh i dont think i can be bothered with the hassle of returning a board then having to wait for it to be checked then a new one sent out

stuie · 14 Feb 2014 at 16:38

If its just DSR you dont need to your returning it due to changing your mind not cause theres a fault youve got 14 days to claim a full refund just cause of that, just to be clear im not trying to push you into 2011 1150 is a very capable setup just that if it was my money for less than the price of a night at the local I would go 2011, also remember that if you fancied an upgrade your ready for a 6 core block of you wanted to where with the 4770k your already top of the tree.