4k 50" TV

Nightglow · 14 Apr 2013 at 14:43

Seiki isn't a name familar to us here, but they have just released a 50-inch-4k ( SE50UY04) tv in the USA for $1299.
A 3840x2160 resolution, & with 120Hz refresh rate and 6.5ms response time.

http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/12/seiki-50-inch-4k-1300/

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/29692...9-it-wants-to-be-your-next-display/index.html

Wonder whether we will see Seiki start appearing here in the UK, may be in time for Christmas.

unrealrocks · 14 Apr 2013 at 14:52

Nice to see the prices are already starting to fall - the new Sony sets certainly are starting to come into 'suitable' budget.

That said there is still no content or distribution method!

Still want one tho

-BA- · 14 Apr 2013 at 14:54

Think I would like to see some reviews first. As the article says, there is no indication of their quality procedures. Certainly nice to see the price point being hammered though so hopefully even if this screen doesn't work out, others may drop their prices further.

Nightglow · 14 Apr 2013 at 14:57

Well, the tv's are made in their own factories, so no middle man.
But, it's hell of a price drop in only a few months for a 4k tv.
A bit more here, but no reviews yet.

http://www.andrew-robinson-online.c...50-inch-ultrahd4k-display-available-for-1299/

http://hdguru.com/seiki-50-inch-breaks-the-ultra-hdtv-price-barrier/

Nightglow · 14 Apr 2013 at 15:11

Nightglow said:
Well, the tv's are made in their own factories, so no middle man.
But, it's hell of a price drop in only a few months for a 4k tv.
A bit more here, but no reviews yet.

http://www.andrew-robinson-online.c...50-inch-ultrahd4k-display-available-for-1299/

http://hdguru.com/seiki-50-inch-breaks-the-ultra-hdtv-price-barrier/

Psycho Sonny · 15 Apr 2013 at 01:23

uknown manufacturer, imagine what would happen in the motors section if some guy posted up a new 200+ mph supercar which only cost £50K by some new manufacturer.

i can only speculate but i imagine the colour reproduction on it will be horrible, as well as any image processing, etc. it will of been made with the cheapest electronics possible, so i doubt it will last long or have a low failure rate, etc.

i doubt this tv will be bought my many

Jokester · 15 Apr 2013 at 01:41

How close do you need to sit to a 50" 4K TV to notice the difference between normal 1080p?

Psycho Sonny · 15 Apr 2013 at 01:56

Jokester said:
How close do you need to sit to a 50" 4K TV to notice the difference between normal 1080p?

depends on your eyesight surely, it also depends on how serious you take quality as well.

my dad and my bro swear they couldn't tell the difference between BBC1/STV and BBC1/STV HD on a 51" to of the range samsung 1080P plasma panel until we were watching football after nearly a year's ownership of said tv and the HD feed got cut off halfway through the game and i switched it to the upscaled SD version, they then noticed the difference pretty much straight away, before that they used to just watch the SD version because they switched between the two and said the only difference is the sound is lower on HD, so SD is better.

i could tell the difference pretty much straight away when they flicked between the two when we first got tv.

Diagro · 15 Apr 2013 at 03:00

Nice res, Would be nice for desktop use and ultra HD movies... But for games im not so sure...

Its refresh rate is limited to 30hz via HDMI at its max res.
I don't know why they didn't stick a DP port on it tbh

Some games i limit FPS to 30, so i may not mind but others would

Nightglow · 15 Apr 2013 at 07:06

Psycho Sonny said:
uknown manufacturer, imagine what would happen in the motors section if some guy posted up a new 200+ mph supercar which only cost £50K by some new manufacturer.

Was the same with the DGM IPS 27" monitors, a unknown make.

Yaayuh! · 15 Apr 2013 at 08:18

Diagro said:
Nice res, Would be nice for desktop use and ultra HD movies... But for games im not so sure...

Its refresh rate is limited to 30hz via HDMI at its max res.
I don't know why they didn't stick a DP port on it tbh

Some games i limit FPS to 30, so i may not mind but others would

HDMI 2.0 will give 4K @ 60fps. It was expected last year so i assume it will be released soon.

passey89 · 15 Apr 2013 at 08:25

sony sell an amp that upscales to 4k so thats probably teh best you will get

http://www.sony.co.uk/product/hcs-home-cinema-receiver/str-da5800es

STR-DA5800ES Home cinema AV receiver
9.2 ch home cinema receiver with next-generation 4K resolution, 9 HDMI® inputs, network connectivity

Get lost in room-filling 9.2 ch surround sound
Optimise audio effects for big screen TV viewing
Upscale movies to beautiful 4K resolution detail

Diagro · 15 Apr 2013 at 11:30

Yea but what GPU can do it?

Yaayuh! · 15 Apr 2013 at 11:37

Diagro said:
Yea but what GPU can do it?

Eh?
We're on about video playback right? Not GPU rendering.

Even if we were, it depends on the game current hardware could handle if the interface/s were compatible.

Psycho Sonny · 15 Apr 2013 at 12:11

passey89 said:
sony sell an amp that upscales to 4k so thats probably teh best you will get

http://www.sony.co.uk/product/hcs-home-cinema-receiver/str-da5800es

STR-DA5800ES Home cinema AV receiver
9.2 ch home cinema receiver with next-generation 4K resolution, 9 HDMI® inputs, network connectivity

Get lost in room-filling 9.2 ch surround sound
Optimise audio effects for big screen TV viewing
Upscale movies to beautiful 4K resolution detail

sony are now an awful brand apart from in the console market.

onkyo on the other hand as well as other manufacturers have been offering 4K upscaling for a whole host of their av models for a few couple of years now.

9.2 ch is also overkill, when most people do not even have 5.1 in their homes, never mind 7.2 ch.

i would buy a 9.2 ch amp if it wasn't much more expensive than a 7.2ch just so i could future proof myself, but if it costs a premium then i would stick to 7.2 or 5.1 for the next 5 years at least.

djxput · 15 Apr 2013 at 13:50

hmmm - could you use this as a desktop monitor?
can a dual link dvi get close to that?

wonder how that would look - almost wish it was smaller for a desk top.

Diagro · 15 Apr 2013 at 23:54

Rossi~ said:
Eh?
We're on about video playback right? Not GPU rendering.

Even if we were, it depends on the game current hardware could handle if the interface/s were compatible.

i ment that im sure most current GPU have max of 2560x1600 output on one connector ye?

FrankJH · 16 Apr 2013 at 06:07

Nightglow said:
Well, the tv's are made in their own factories, so no middle man.
But, it's hell of a price drop in only a few months for a 4k tv.
A bit more here, but no reviews yet.

http://www.andrew-robinson-online.c...50-inch-ultrahd4k-display-available-for-1299/

http://hdguru.com/seiki-50-inch-breaks-the-ultra-hdtv-price-barrier/

Not really - as first 4k TV's were 84" not 50" so not comparable

(the size and difficulty of producing that size of panel is what caused the larger one to be so extreme, look at the professional Pioneer plasma's in 105" and so forth for some eye watering prices too)

There are ~60" 4k TV's coming out much more reasonably priced from the main manufacturers in the next few months

spoffle · 16 Apr 2013 at 06:25

Diagro said:
i ment that im sure most current GPU have max of 2560x1600 output on one connector ye?

No

passey89 · 16 Apr 2013 at 07:11

Diagro said:
i ment that im sure most current GPU have max of 2560x1600 output on one connector ye?

HDMI 1.4 increases the maximum resolution to 4K × 2K, i.e. 3840 × 2160p (Quad HD) at 24 Hz/25 Hz/30 Hz or 4096 × 2160p at 24 Hz (which is a resolution used with digital theaters).