4K HDR TV
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LG OLED c7 here. No issues with image retention here. Had it since October to match the One X. Racked up countless hours on it gaming.
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This except I got mine in November. Was blown away by how good the OLED was and glad I went for it over the Samsung that was at the same price point at the time.
And that is the reason I didn't go OLED.
If there was zero chance of image retention or at least the manufacturer was willing to warrant against the issue, in other words have faith in their own product, then I would be willing to make the investment.
There isn't zero chance and the manufacturer will not replace if it happens. Those two reasons alone make me feel that OLED still isn't ready for the mass market.
A TV should be installed and forgotten about, it shouldn't require any kind of "baby sitting" to make sure you don't leave something on the screen too long!
I'm sure it will get there or the emerging technologies will - in 5-6 years time when next I'm looking I'm hoping for either OLED which is ready or Micro-LED.
It’s the one thing that is holding me back, my luck with tech would mean I’d be 99% certain mine would get burn in lol.
I wouldn’t want the hassle of having to babysit what the family watches, they’d hate me.
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IMO OLED is the best for movies, gaming however i'd still stick with an LCD, preferably FALD however they get into OLED territory with pricing and sometimes go beyond so they aren't a cheap option. there is no such thing as a perfect tv or best tv for everyone. that is how it is. all of them have their weak points.
I own a top of the range 1080p sony lcd, the last they made before going all 4k for their mid-top ranges. i also own a late panny plasma. the plasma does look great however it's smart tv and integration for the modern world is crap. it's little things like. when i turn my 4k fire tv on i want the tv to turn on (which it does) and automatically select the right input. which it won't do it goes to AV/TV when I've told it in settings to only start into HDMI. the difference in picture quality is there but tbh most people wouldn't be able to tell.
it's why i haven't upgraded to OLED yet. i own a third tv which is an LG 4K HDR IPS 8bit with dithering.
if your room suits it. then IMO the best thing you can do is get a projector. 1080p for now just because it's cheap with a smaller 4k LCD screen. sweet spot being around 55 inches right now for the money. if your room doesn't suit then LCD is probably your best bet. the law of diminishing returns means nobody should really be spending more than say 750-1500 on a tv (depending on the time of year they buy. e.g. new model or EOL model), the extra usually doesn't justify the increase in quality.
i think for LCD it's best to stick to - Sony or Samsung and go for mid-high end
OLED - LG cheapest newest panel
need wide viewing angles - LG lcd because they use IPS. they are cracking tv's you won't be able to tell the blacks aren't as black as VA. i struggle to differentiate from my plasma but i did buy a top of the range LG lcd.
want largest screen - 1080p projector usually 600 quid for a very good projector from optoma or benq then another 100-150 on a half decent 120 inch screen
all 3 of my tv's have been top of the range or as close as. but i'm starting to think they aren't really worth the extra and will go a different direction in future and go for bang for buck. my mate at work has spent like $15K on tv's in the past 2 years. yes they look good but i would honestly say 99% of people would struggle to tell the difference between his and a mid range tv and 1/3rd of the price
likely because it's hisense tbh.
they are good tv's but also cheap tv's you tend to get what you pay for. albeit hisense is probably the best cheap tv you can buy it's still a budget brand. they have made some good panels but only like a handful out of the many they produce. so i'm not saying they are all crap. it's likely you haven't bought one of their showcase panels. which aren't cheap.
I own a top of the range 1080p sony lcd, the last they made before going all 4k for their mid-top ranges. i also own a late panny plasma. the plasma does look great however it's smart tv and integration for the modern world is crap. it's little things like. when i turn my 4k fire tv on i want the tv to turn on (which it does) and automatically select the right input. which it won't do it goes to AV/TV when I've told it in settings to only start into HDMI. the difference in picture quality is there but tbh most people wouldn't be able to tell.
it's why i haven't upgraded to OLED yet. i own a third tv which is an LG 4K HDR IPS 8bit with dithering.
if your room suits it. then IMO the best thing you can do is get a projector. 1080p for now just because it's cheap with a smaller 4k LCD screen. sweet spot being around 55 inches right now for the money. if your room doesn't suit then LCD is probably your best bet. the law of diminishing returns means nobody should really be spending more than say 750-1500 on a tv (depending on the time of year they buy. e.g. new model or EOL model), the extra usually doesn't justify the increase in quality.
i think for LCD it's best to stick to - Sony or Samsung and go for mid-high end
OLED - LG cheapest newest panel
need wide viewing angles - LG lcd because they use IPS. they are cracking tv's you won't be able to tell the blacks aren't as black as VA. i struggle to differentiate from my plasma but i did buy a top of the range LG lcd.
want largest screen - 1080p projector usually 600 quid for a very good projector from optoma or benq then another 100-150 on a half decent 120 inch screen
all 3 of my tv's have been top of the range or as close as. but i'm starting to think they aren't really worth the extra and will go a different direction in future and go for bang for buck. my mate at work has spent like $15K on tv's in the past 2 years. yes they look good but i would honestly say 99% of people would struggle to tell the difference between his and a mid range tv and 1/3rd of the price
likely because it's hisense tbh.
they are good tv's but also cheap tv's you tend to get what you pay for. albeit hisense is probably the best cheap tv you can buy it's still a budget brand. they have made some good panels but only like a handful out of the many they produce. so i'm not saying they are all crap. it's likely you haven't bought one of their showcase panels. which aren't cheap.
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I have a B7 55" - i dont like HDR - it looks too dull when game mode is enabled - looks far better in SDR game mode. Not really tried HDR in non game mode setting but the input lag like that puts me off - very noticeable when playing something like everybodys golf where timing is everything.
Id be interested for others with LG OLED to let me know what settings they use when gaming - im assuming not game mode.
Dolby Vision stuff looks incredible on Netflix.
Id be interested for others with LG OLED to let me know what settings they use when gaming - im assuming not game mode.
Dolby Vision stuff looks incredible on Netflix.
My b6 is the same when in game mode. Very disappointing. I tried it in hdr vivid mode and it looks amazing but the input lag is horrible.
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Lulwut?
On the c7 (essentially the same panel) - Game Mode is the thing that reduces the input lag. Shooting in Cod WW2 when I was playing it felt v.delayed without it on to the point it was unplayable. Game Mode HDR is perfect. Responsive and immediately improved the K/D on Cod WW2.
Pretty much used this as baseline and made a few slight personal changes..
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Not sure about the B7 - Are you talking about Xbox and PS4? As PC HDR is pretty broken.
Use these settings
HDR looks lush.
https://www.avforums.com/threads/best-settings-for-oled-2016-hdr-game.2121116/
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if you are serious about input lag and competitive fps. then IMO it's best played on a PC monitor not a tv. if casual gamer then tv.
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What is?
Meh - I can't really compete with twitch gamers anyway so I gave up on that ages ago.
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competitive fps.
on a monitor lag will be less than 10ms and as low as 1-5ms on the high end ones.
on a tv you are talking 20ms at best. average of around 40ms. some as high as 100ms with all sorts of processing on.
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I want to thank you - this did the trick - i think actually my main problem was the games i was playing, HDR in Fifa seems slightly borked - when playing the game the screen is a bit washed out and dark - (although does look a lot better now with these settings) - but when it goes to cut scene is eye searingly colourful and looks wonderful.
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No problem. Glad they worked for you.
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That makes sense - stuck on Gears of War 4 in HDR and it was pretty mindblowing.