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4K performance for £300

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Yes, I know it can't be done atm.

Just wanted to see if anyone has an educated opinion on when 60fps 4K performance will be available at this price point. It obviously has to happen one day.
 
Probably looking at the next generation of cards on the die shrinks then, most likely a while after they've been out and come down in price as well.
 
Max detail, 2 years minimum.

Bear in mind that game detail levels and complexity are increasing all the time, and are likely to ramp up as primary platform moves to PS4 / XBone and the PS3 / XB360 are phased out.
 
TallPaul_S said:
The issue is, as cards get faster, games get more demanding. You'll probably always need a high end card to run max settings at 4k.
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I blame Nvidia with all their rubbish.

In a couple of years god know what anistropic tessellation PCSS crap their marketing team come with.
 
Max detail with 4xMSAA? Quite some time, there'll always be a handful that will be pushing the boundaries. Games will get better looking as time goes on as well.

Put it this way. Is there a card under £300 that can play GTAV @ 1920x1080 at nice smooth 60fps with max settings at 4xMSAA? 2x used 290s is as close as you'll get. But at UHD res? You're having a laugh.
 
ALXAndy said:
Yes it can be done. Two used R9290.
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That's what I have actually (paid £290 total for the pair of 290Xs), and it probably can do a sterling job at 4k paired with a high-end processor.

Unfortunately I'm at 1440p with an FX-8, so can't verify.
 
Rossi~ said:
Max detail with 4xMSAA? Quite some time, there'll always be a handful that will be pushing the boundaries. Games will get better looking as time goes on as well.

Put it this way. Is there a card under £300 that can play GTAV @ 1920x1080 at nice smooth 60fps with max settings at 4xMSAA? 2x used 290s is as close as you'll get. But at UHD res? You're having a laugh.
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Do you run 4k then?

I'd be interested to see your results.
 
4k with 4xmsaa is not very viable on 2x290s............not on 2015s games anyway. I'd know. You'd need 8gb per card and roughly the amount of power of 4 290x cards in quadfire.
 
bemaniac said:
4k with 4xmsaa is not very viable on 2x290s............not on 2015s games anyway. I'd know. You'd need 8gb per card and roughly the amount of power of 4 290x cards in quadfire.
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Seriously, the heck is all this talk of 4xmsaa and 4k?

Obviously that's utter nonsense, as you barely need msaa for 4k and 4x is just pure LOL.

I'm running 2x in GTAV and I've never seen an image so smooth. Even things like power cables have no fuzz at all.

4k is more than doable right now for less than £300 so long as you're not one of these types of people who think you need to run a game at 3000 FPS minimum for it to be even remotely playable.

I spent the first half of my life playing on consoles from the Atari to the SNES and they all ran at 30 FPS or less and I had tons of fun and played many amazing games, for example Super Mario World and enjoyed every last minute at 30 FPS.
 
Depends on the game and your screen size, AMDMatt has mentioned how he still needs 4xMSAA to completely remove jaggies at 4k in some titles. I'd actually believe that as well as using 8xMSAA at 1440p with MFAA enabled effectively making it 16xMSAA I can still see jaggies.
 
Ayahuasca said:
Depends on the game and your screen size, AMDMatt has mentioned how he still needs 4xMSAA to completely remove jaggies at 4k in some titles. I'd actually believe that as well as using 8xMSAA at 1440p with MFAA enabled effectively making it 16xMSAA I can still see jaggies.
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Well then Matt has a different monitor to me because on mine 2x is more than enough and I've tested pretty much every modern game from BF4 to Crysis 3, Dying Light and so on.

I don't understand why people seem to think that anything less than 60 FPS is the end of the world. I get 38 absolute minimum in GTAV and with Gsync running I really couldn't even tell you when it's running at that speed unless I run FRAPS and I don't run any OSDS as they just ruin the experience.

I'm a gamer, not a FPS spotter.
 
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ALXAndy said:
Well then Matt has a different monitor to me because on mine 2x is more than enough and I've tested pretty much every modern game from BF4 to Crysis 3, Dying Light and so on.

I don't understand why people seem to think that anything less than 60 FPS is the end of the world. I get 38 absolute minimum in GTAV and with Gsync running I really couldn't even tell you when it's running at that speed unless I run FRAPS and I don't run any OSDS as they just ruin the experience.

I'm a gamer, not a FPS spotter.
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Depends on the game engine and game IMO.

GTA V with any amount of AA still has jaggies at 4K (156PPI 28inch 4K Asus Monitor). BF4,Crysis 3 and DL aren't as bad.

GTA V and DA:I are smooth even below 60 FPS. Also depends on the person some can, some can't feel the difference. Totally depends what you are use to in terms of AA and "smoothness" of FPS.
 
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