4K UHD Content from Sky

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In case you missed it already, Sky will be launching their 4K UHD service from 13th August.

The latest update from Sky for the Sky Q Silver added support for 4K and many of you have already been playing with the settings.

Well don't stop there!

Starting next week Sky will be pushing even more on this and encouraging people to start changing the settings of their Sky Silver boxes for their 4K TVs.

So that you can see what it will be like, they'll also be releasing some 4K content early via the On Demand content!!!!!

5th August around Midday (Movies and Entertainment)

  • Big Cats
  • Forest Gump
  • Pixels
6th August 5pm Sky Sports

  • International Champions Cup - Liverpool vs BarcelonaSo please get playing!!
 
Scubbie said:
In case you missed it already, Sky will be launching their 4K UHD service from 13th August.

The latest update from Sky for the Sky Q Silver added support for 4K and many of you have already been playing with the settings.

Well don't stop there!

Starting next week Sky will be pushing even more on this and encouraging people to start changing the settings of their Sky Silver boxes for their 4K TVs.

So that you can see what it will be like, they'll also be releasing some 4K content early via the On Demand content!!!!!

5th August around Midday (Movies and Entertainment)

  • Big Cats
  • Forest Gump
  • Pixels
6th August 5pm Sky Sports

  • International Champions Cup - Liverpool vs BarcelonaSo please get playing!!
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Cool. Looking forward to that. Thanks for the info.
 
xxalxx said:
Most likely upscaled, the same as most of the 4K disc versions of films that are now out.
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Most 4K Blu-rays are mastered/transferred in 4K or above these days.

I'm guessing Skys movie content will be too, otherwise what's the point?

The sports will be full 4K.
 
Hi folks,

My understanding is that it will be proper 4K UHD content, not HD or SD upscaled to 4K.

The stated aim is to give people an opportunity to set up their TVs and Sky Q boxes prior to the full launch and give everyone an opportunity to see what the quality will be like.

I doubt that they will want to upscale the contentfor such a demonstration, but I guess you'll find out on Friday. :)
 
dbmzk1 said:
Most 4K Blu-rays are mastered/transferred in 4K or above these days.

I'm guessing Skys movie content will be too, otherwise what's the point?

The sports will be full 4K.
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And older films will have loads of grain being upscale. As for sports do sky use there own video cameras?
 
I'm just going by what i read :) Most of the reviews are pointing out the DI's for the films are <4K.

"The Martian 4K, arguably the premier title in 20th Century Fox's first wave of UHD Blu-ray releases, was photographed in 5K but finished on a 2K digital intermediate, which means it's been down-scaled from its source resolution in post production. What does that mean for its 4K release? It's been upscaled back to 4K, which is still a lower resolution than its native 5K source. What does that mean in the real world, where what's on the screen matters more than technical specs, letters, and numbers? It means The Martian looks fantastic as-is, even if it's 5K downgraded to 2K masquerading as 4K. Yet the results are truly spectacular, not perfect by any means but a noticeable upgrade from the 1080p Blu-ray, which is also included with this release (note that the 1080p 3D version is not included, and don't look for a UHD 3D version, either. It doesn't exist, and neither will any 3D UHD discs). "

Pixels has a 2K DI, so I would expect it to be upscaled.

Edit: The Revenant, Spectre and Bridge of Spies are in the movies lineup, they all have a 4K DI.

Whatever SKY does will follow to Foxtel, hence my interest in this thread :)
 
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deuse said:
And older films will have loads of grain being upscale. As for sports do sky use there own video cameras?
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The actual main feed from the playing field is usually owned and controlled by exclusive broadcasting providers and is leased to Sky, this feed is sometimes called a "world feed" or "international signal" because you see the same camera angles whether you're watching on a Sky channel with english commentary or some foreign channel in another country with foreign commentary, or on the "big screen" in the venue itself.

Sometimes after a match is over you will get Sky's own camera men and interviewers coming out onto the playing fields with their own equipment or "video cameras" to interview players. This is when they cut from the "world feed" and go to their own Sky feed and equipment.

Sky will also probably use their own equipment in their own studio where they have their presenters and whatnot.
 
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asim18 said:
The actual main feed from the playing field is usually owned and controlled by exclusive broadcasting providers and is leased to Sky, this feed is sometimes called a "world feed" or "international signal" because you see the same camera angles whether you're watching on a Sky channel with english commentary or some foreign channel in another country with foreign commentary, or on the "big screen" in the venue itself.

Sometimes after a match is over you will get Sky's own camera men and interviewers coming out onto the playing fields with their own equipment or "video cameras" to interview players. This is when they cut from the "world feed" and go to their own Sky feed and equipment.

Sky will also probably use their own equipment in their own studio where they have their presenters and whatnot.
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Sky are the host broadcaster and produce a 'clean' feed direct into their mobile studio. Other broadcasters can then apply their own DOG's to this clean feed, along with Sky, which then becomes the broadcasted 'dirty' feed. We saw a Sky Sports truck when one visited work. Very impressive inside.

Whether the cameras themselves are leased or not I don't know, but AFAIK anyway, Sky do all the pre and post production themselves. Along with all the cameramen, editors, producers etc.
 
From my understanding the F1 coverage shown by Sky UK is handled by one team that provides content to Sky Italy & Sky Germany/Austria. They will be providing 4K content next year. I'm unsure if they'll be providing it sooner.

As for the films, to the best of my knowledge all the films released in the cinemas now are available in 4K. Whether the source sent to Sky is the same or HD I don't know, but that would be a rather pointless exercise IMHO. It would make more sense for Sky to be provided with 4K content for their 4K broadcasts.

Sky Sports will be providing a lot of live footie coverage in 4K. I believe that this will be captured with 4K cameras.

Sadly 3D isn't as popular as many would have liked. Many of the manufacturers now have stopped producing 3D TVs and their 4K TVs now don't have 3D. Such a shame, but there you go.

Is there a source available in 3D 4K? Well once more that is what is shown in many cinemas now, so yes it does exist. Sadly we're just not going to get it on the TVs.
 
Scubbie said:
From my understanding the F1 coverage shown by Sky UK is handled by one team that provides content to Sky Italy & Sky Germany/Austria. They will be providing 4K content next year. I'm unsure if they'll be providing it sooner.
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FOM and the FIA are in charge of the race video and sound. They only do 1080p and below.
You won't see F1 in UHD anytime soon. And why sky is going to upscale it is beyond me.
 
deuse said:
FOM and the FIA are in charge of the race video and sound. They only do 1080p and below.
You won't see F1 in UHD anytime soon. And why sky is going to upscale it is beyond me.
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Sure the current feed from F1 races is in 1080i, but I've just gone back to the press information made back in March about this.

The is nothing stating that the footage will be upscaled or full 4K.

It launches with the 2017 season.
 
Scubbie said:
Sure the current feed from F1 races is in 1080i, but I've just gone back to the press information made back in March about this.

The is nothing stating that the footage will be upscaled or full 4K.

It launches with the 2017 season.
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Sky will do what any UHD TV can already do. Upscale it. Pointless.

But if you want F1 in UHD give Bernie a few million :)
 
spoffle said:
It'll be UHD, as proper 4K is 4096x2160 and isn't 16:9.
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Quote from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-high-definition_television#Resolution
Resolution

Two resolutions are defined as UHDTV:

  • 4K UHDTV (2160p) is 3840 pixels wide by 2160 pixels tall (8.29 megapixels), which is four times as many pixels as 1920x1080 (2.07 megapixels).
  • 8K UHDTV (4320p) is 7680 pixels wide by 4320 pixels tall (33.18 megapixels), which is sixteen times as many pixels and four times the spatial resolution of current 1080p HDTV, which brings it closer to the detail level of 15/70 mm IMAX. NHK advocates the 8K UHDTV format with 22.2 surround sound as Super Hi-Vision.
The suffix "p" in 2160p and 4320p stands for progressive scan or non-interlaced.
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From reading that I would expect any material from the states arriving in 2160p to be 3840x2160 for 4K broadcasts. I could be wrong, but I'd be surprised if they were making it so differently.

deuse said:
Sky will do what any UHD TV can already do. Upscale it. Pointless.

But if you want F1 in UHD give Bernie a few million :)
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Well that's the deal which they've signed up to. I guess that yo'd best go have a word with the boffins at Sky on this as they've obviously made a press release which is false if you are so sure that BE won't have 4K cameras available from next season.
 
Scubbie said:
Quote from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-high-definition_television#Resolution


From reading that I would expect any material from the states arriving in 2160p to be 3840x2160 for 4K broadcasts. I could be wrong, but I'd be surprised if they were making it so differently.



Well that's the deal which they've signed up to. I guess that yo'd best go have a word with the boffins at Sky on this as they've obviously made a press release which is false if you are so sure that BE won't have 4K cameras available from next season.
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That's what I was saying. 3840x2160 isn't 4K, it's UHD.
 
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