5 Picture/Smiley limit

MaxPower · 26 Aug 2006 at 22:30

Kabaala said:
If they can't do it in 1 smiley there's a problem. I for one certainly dont wink/grin/looked shocked multiple times through a sentence in RL to get a point accross lol.

Ahhhaaaaaaa but did you "laugh out loud" at the end of that statement.

I agree it would be nice to have the ability to post more images per post. Although I can understand why OcUK limit that as well as the signiture size and controlled avatars, they have a reputation for being one of the best groomed forums on the internet, in my eyes certainly anyway. A lot easier to read and less garish than some boards out there.

Joe42 · 26 Aug 2006 at 22:37

Why not have the image limit raised to as high as it will go and a smiley limit of 5 imposed in the rules?

That means posting project logs and picture threads in all forums becomes easier but without the disadvantage of a minority of people using an excessive amount of smilies.
The penalty for breaking the smilie rule by an excessive amount could be post deletion followed by a suspension for a second offence, so it would work in a similar way to the signature rules.
I don't think a smiley rule would be excessively broken as its rare to see a post with anywhere near 5 smilies. Seems logical to me...

Yewen · 26 Aug 2006 at 22:59

That would be to hard to moderate in my opinion.

Have enough looking for swearing yet alone counting peoples smilies.

If you need to post 10 images, go over onto two posts. Makes it easier to link aswell.

Case Central gets along just about ok with 5, I would prefer it being 7 maybe just to add enough for the average mod project log but it is most certainly workable at 5.

I would personally not want to be spending my time counting smilies to moderate it, especially when the current limit is perfectly fine and moderates itself.

Richdog · 26 Aug 2006 at 23:09

Yewen said:
That would be to hard to moderate in my opinion.

Have enough looking for swearing yet alone counting peoples smilies.
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And if a swear-filter was implemented that would free up your time to moderate things actually worth moderating...

Biohazard · 26 Aug 2006 at 23:12

Richdog said:
And if a swear-filter was implemented that would free up your time to moderate things actually worth moderating...

yeah seems silly not to have one

Werewolf · 26 Aug 2006 at 23:45

Biohazard said:
yeah seems silly not to have one

At a guess about 75% of all the swearing we edit at the moment is partially disguised or deliberately mispelt - sort of makes the swear filter fairly useless

Richdog · 26 Aug 2006 at 23:50

Werewolf said:
At a guess about 75% of all the swearing we edit at the moment is partially disguised or deliberately mispelt - sort of makes the swear filter fairly useless

People would use it if it were there... they disguise it simply because they want to type in the word. If it comes out filtered it still looks like a bunch of stars, but gives some remote sense of satisfaction at having typed it. I personally don't swear in posts, but some people just do. Going to so much effort to police them is just resource-consuming and silly, I can't think of a single other forum that uses that method. Just make a filter and let people know that if they feel they must write a sweary that they are free to do so eccept it will be auto-starred. Job done, and you would find yourself looking for them a lot less often.

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j00ni · 26 Aug 2006 at 23:54

If you need to post more than 5 images could you not just merge a few images into one larger image?

lay-z-boy · 27 Aug 2006 at 00:05

sorry

Because you touch yourself at night.

roflmao!

Meatball · 27 Aug 2006 at 00:28

Keep OcUk forum clean imo. I think the limit is good personally, I've been on so many forums where they've been full of images and it really wrecks them

. I do tend to use Smilies a lot though just because I think they're funny

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Zip said:
Smileys and images in quotes get counted as well and that can be a real pain in the arse

That's the only thing that should be lifted. Any images in quotes should not be counted as your own.

nealw · 27 Aug 2006 at 00:48

PhEaR my Skills, n0oBz

Yewen · 27 Aug 2006 at 01:07

Richdog said:
People would use it if it were there... they disguise it simply because they want to type in the word. If it comes out filtered it still looks like a bunch of stars, but gives some remote sense of satisfaction at having typed it. I personally don't swear in posts, but some people just do. Going to so much effort to police them is just resource-consuming and silly, I can't think of a single other forum that uses that method. Just make a filter and let people know that if they feel they must write a sweary that they are free to do so eccept it will be auto-starred. Job done, and you would find yourself looking for them a lot less often. .

But how can you account for people going **9*, **(* etc...

Thats what most of the swearing on OcUK is, something that a dumb filter could never deal with. If you know of one then I think there would be no objections to using it.

Yes you can swear on OcUK, but most people stick 1's or use 00 etc, you just can not make a dumb filter cope with that, also you can post pictures etc, nothing a filter could deal with.

Also, swearing takes up very little time to edit so I do not think it bothers anyone, counting smilies would seem very pointless to me though personally.

Joe42 · 27 Aug 2006 at 01:30

Yewen said:
Also, swearing takes up very little time to edit so I do not think it bothers anyone, counting smilies would seem very pointless to me though personally.

Well only take action if its very obvious the limit has been broken, like you do with sigs. I don't think it would be broken much at all, certainly not as much as the sig rules are. The other thing is its not as critical to edit out as swearing is if someone posts loads of smileys.

Why not make a compromise, raise the limit a little higher and see how it goes. Personally its not a major concern to me but i have read in case central someone saying they wouldn't post their project log here because the limit makes it a real pain, and it would be nice if people could post project logs and such.

Greenlizard0 · 27 Aug 2006 at 01:35

I like reading these forums without giant sigs, millions of smilies, flashing doodah's. It keeps it clean looking which is wicked and well easy to find your way through.

Yewen · 27 Aug 2006 at 01:37

Joe42 said:
Well only take action if its very obvious the limit has been broken, like you do with sigs. I don't think it would be broken much at all, certainly not as much as the sig rules are. The other thing is its not as critical to edit out as swearing is if someone posts loads of smileys.

Why not make a compromise, raise the limit a little higher and see how it goes. Personally its not a major concern to me but i have read in case central someone saying they wouldn't post their project log here because the limit makes it a real pain, and it would be nice if people could post project logs and such.

That was more someone throwing toys out the pram, they got more reply on here than the other forum in the end.

Has not stopped dozens of mod logs and case reviews on OcUK, all its means is you get PC+2 instead of PC+1, can always just link to the pictures aswell instead of the smilies, nothing stopping you.

Joe42 · 27 Aug 2006 at 01:45

Yewen said:
That was more someone throwing toys out the pram, they got more reply on here than the other forum in the end.

Has not stopped dozens of mod logs and case reviews on OcUK, all its means is you get PC+2 instead of PC+1, can always just link to the pictures aswell instead of the smilies, nothing stopping you.

Well you practically live in there so i'll take your word for it

As i said its not a major concern to me i just thought having unlimited pics with a smiley rule might be a good solution but perhaps not...

Yewen · 27 Aug 2006 at 01:54

Its easy to get around, and it is not a rule.

But imagine someone posting 500 gif animations in one post, as a sort of tag for them thinking something was funny.

I have seen it on other forums, and just the limit stops that, but is easy to get around, post twice.

BUT, if you post twice with just a smiley you rightly get attacked by half the registered members for spamming.

SiriusB · 27 Aug 2006 at 02:00

Yewen said:
BUT, if you post twice with just a smiley you rightly get attacked by half the registered members for spamming.

*removed smilies to illustrate how one can "get around" there being smilies in a quote*

Or pwned by a mod!

SiriusB

Werewolf · 27 Aug 2006 at 02:02

Yewen said:
Its easy to get around, and it is not a rule.

But imagine someone posting 500 gif animations in one post, as a sort of tag for them thinking something was funny.

I don't need to imagine it, i remember it and the resulting crash of IE.

Yewen · 27 Aug 2006 at 02:20

Werewolf said:
I don't need to imagine it, i remember it and the resulting crash of IE.

There was a reason why dual core was introduced you know.

Would be nice to see a limit of 7, but nothing wrong with current way things work so why change really.