55" 4K around £1K+, Samsung VE55HU7200, Sony KD55X8505b, Panasonic TX-55CX680

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Any idea on a 55" 4k between £1000 - £1200? Er
I believe the Sony and the Samsung has both freeview and freesat. I am not fussed about 3D. Watch F1 but not football but for movies etc. Screen quality is my main objvective with a reasonable sound. Sounds like towards the lower end of 4K so am looking for the biggest bang for £.
Sony had a huge price cut from £2100 , Samsung has curved screen.
I know LG is cheaper but heard they are laggy.
Any ideas or suggestions?....For future proofing as 4k will be out next yr i think

Thanks
 
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I own the 55CX680 and can say it's a fantastic set, so far this year the Pana's are getting good reviews, F1 looked really good at the weekend, Gaming is great, no noticeable input lag, and 1080 content looks really good on it.

SD is a little soft, The new Firefox OS is much better than the older smart Tv's also, Netflix/Amazon/youtube 4K work fine, and look pretty awesome despite not being proper 4K.
 
4k will be out next year on what exactly?

the only point in buying a 4k tv now is if your looking at gaming 4k on a pc. or if you have a shedload of cash to burn on real 4k content.

with tv's there is no such thing as future proofing in terms of resolution. the only way to future proof is by buying the best quality in terms of the picture.

resolution is one part of a very complex puzzle. black levels, contrast ratios, banding, DSE, etc are all equally if not more important than resolution.

when buying a camera do you look at the megapixels (resolution) or do you look at other features too like sensor size, optical zoom levels, etc?

4K isn't coming anytime soon @ a decent bit rate unless your willing to pay £50+ per movie or something crazy like that.

you do realise sky HD isn't 1080P. so watching 720p or 1080i on a 4k lcd isn't going to look that great. the only thing that will is low bit rate 4k netflix. do you even have a netflix 4k account?

with a budget of £1200 i would spend £200-£300 on a yamaha soundbar if you want "reasonable" sound as no modern tv has anything like that.

that leaves you with around £900 which i would spend on a quality 1080P 55" screen like the sony w829 or similar. forget 4K you don't need it and you won't for a very long time. i reckon by the time they nail 4k tv's down in terms of all the niggles they have, 8k will be what everyone is buying.

all you need to do is go to hdtvtest or avforums and read some reviews, etc. they will tell you what tv is good and what isn't.

oh and buy from john lewis they price match and they give a free 5 year warranty with every tv and should you have an issue they will treat you like a king. go with currys and if it breaks after 13 months they will likely make you pay £100's for repairs.
 
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People are even considering 8k? When 4k is already overkill. In the same sentence that you mention that res isn't everything?

Colour quality, black levels, contrast, brightness. Viewing angles, motion handling. These are the things that matter. 4k is enough to be an end game res for home use.
 
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I'll make my question clearer - what did you mean by the below comment? As in what does it matter if 8K is around? And why should that impact your purchase of a 4K TV?

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i reckon by the time they nail 4k tv's down in terms of all the niggles they have, 8k will be what everyone is buying.
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I'd like to know what all these niggles are !!

4K not coming anytime soon !! So BT didn't announce there 4K service to launch in August, Sky also don't have a 4K broadcast channel I suppose, Astra have a Demo 4k channel which demos some fantastic quality 4K.

Also blueray ultra HD is coming this year.

Netflix might not be full bitrate 4K bit its loads better than 1080p, and the content is growing all the time.
 
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Did you read what I said? By the time they get 4k right I'm betting 8k will be around
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I don't think that will be the case. To put it simply 4k can be achieved on today's technologies, 8k can not. Broadcasters will massively struggle with bandwidth, the internet will struggle with bandwidth and disk space will also struggle. Where 4k can be easily achieved on all these with no effort, if they wanted to.

Yes different compression methods can be used h265 etc (not sure if it's being used on anything atm). But this will require massive amounts of outlay.
 
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kona786 said:
I'll make my question clearer - what did you mean by the below comment? As in what does it matter if 8K is around? And why should that impact your purchase of a 4K TV?
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Manufacturers have already show cased 8k TV's. A Google will show you that and therefore they are the future.

People buying 4k now to future proof themselves when they aren't as good as 1080p TV's of the same price imo is stupid with the current lack of content.

By the time they sort out content and I don't mean 1 broadcast channel here and there. I reckon 8k will have launched. It will have niggles but they should learn from 4k and iron them out quickly.

How many people today actually watch quality 1080p on their 1080p TV?

Majority watch SD, 720p or 1080i or low bit rate streams of 1080p.

I reckon 8k will be like 1080p as it is now. 4k will be like 720p.

People will buy 8k in the future to watch either 1080p or 4k on it 95% of the time.

Much like today most watch 1080i (sky hd) on their 1080p TV's.

Why then buy 8k? Because low bit rate 8k streams and 8k physical media will happen much like 1080p/4k content today.

As for not having the technology. Virgin Media are already trialling 200MB. It will happen but it's going to take time much like 4k currently is.

I don't believe 4k atm represents a smart purchase. 1080p TV's still offer a lot better picture quality at the same price point.

Also you can watch 4k content with no issues on a 1080p TV (supersampling) I've done it on mine.

The whole buying 4k for future proofing imo is stupid. Buy a TV based on the reality today and the reality of the next few years. 4k is nowhere near mainstream by the time it is I reckon 8k will be around and for a little bit more money it makes more sense to buy 8k then rather than 4k.

Will need to review 4k against a 8k to then see which has better PQ but manufacturers will focus on them as premium models and get them up to speed quicker.

It's what happened when HD launched 720p came first shortly after 1080p hit when it had gained momentum. IMO I think 8K is what is going to cause waves not 4K.
 
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all this talk of 8K like it will be mainstream is just pointless, japan haven't gone 8K and wont be until 2020 when NHK plan to broadcast their first 8K of the olympics.

We wont be going 8K for a few years after that, so why not go 4K now and enjoy it for 5/10 years ?

And when 8K come's it will be more expensive again, 4K tv's can be had for the same price as last years 1080p tv's if you look around so seems pointless not to us it.
 
Hehe, all these 8k talk. I am excluding the price of a soundbar because I can always add.
BT said they will be launching 4k so we will see. If HD I have to look at diff models.
 
I really don't know what Sonny is smoking but I beg to differ on the point of 8k.

Monkeys, if your planing to keep your next TV for 5yrs+ and are not super duper anal about ultimate PQ then a good 4K TV will be a fine purchase right now.
 
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I really don't know what Sonny is smoking but I beg to differ on the point of 8k.

Monkeys, if your planing to keep your next TV for 5yrs+ and are not super duper anal about ultimate PQ then a good 4K TV will be a fine purchase right now.
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Thats what I am driving at. Just good quality general viewing, don't game. Watch news , f1 films. Will keep it till it fails or 5+ yrs yrs. As long as it scales HD well, that's it....with no judders, not after cutting edge.
 
talk of 8K is rubbish so forget about it, because we've only just started with 4K and we're miles behind with regards to producing a Reference quality image, so talk of 8K is a total non starter.

for me there's no tv worth buying until next year, i.e the 65'' Flat OLED 4K.

simply put i've just seen all the latest 2015 Sony 1080p and they're not as good as my Panny, so i can forget about this year.... as for a 4k LED????? they're not anywhere near as good as an OLED and OLEDs will only ever get better and cheaper with time, so it's a total no Brainer.

Panny will be releasing their OLED later this year and LG will be ramping up their production/ dropping prices early next year, so everything is about to happen soon, but right now we're in Limbo...

but if i was after something right now because i had no choice, i'd get one of the Samsung 4K LEDs
 
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I'm looking forward to Skys rival 4k service which presumably will launch in the next 90days to beat BT to it. I access BT sport through Sky along with Sky Sports so look for ward to a whole season of 4k football in at least 50hz. I'm prepared to pay upto £500 for a box and £20/m extra for just sport in 4K ontop of my full package.
 
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As for not having the technology. Virgin Media are already trialling 200MB. It will happen but it's going to take time much like 4k currently is.
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I will not quote it all.

Virgin media are testing 300Mb at the minute, but to stream 8k even at netflix current standard you will saturate 65Mb line. This is far beyond most peoples internet connection and even services like netflix to sustain vast amounts of people streaming a this bit rate. Hence it being years off, added to disks not being able to store the information and satellite bandwidth not being there for anything more than tests.

I will agrees in the fact there is not even any real 4k content at the minute, but at least 4k is manageable with current technology. I will also agree most of the time a 1080p tv will be just as good, but within 5 years there will be plenty of 4k content and the price of the 55cx700 (around £1050 with discounts) why not buy it? it's suppose to be a great tv with excellent picture quality and should last a fair few years.
 
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