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5600X to 5800X3D

Jimbo

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Im trying to decide wether to upgrade my cpu to 5800x3d from my current 5600X but unsure if its worth it as i game at 4K and sometimes 1400p. Im using a Saphire Nitro+6800XT. However looking at hardware unboxed benchies theres not much if any benifit at these higher res as you become GPU bound more than CPU in most titles. However I would be gaining another 2 cores and extending my current AM4 platform for a few more years. Looking at some gaming benchies the 5800x3d wasnt too far off zen4 so it got me thinking. And will the price off 5800x3d drop with new zen4 releases? has anyone done the same? worth it?
 
I think if you're keeping it for a few years it's an excellent decision. Games will need 8 cores soon and that is pretty much the best there is. should get a decent amount for the 5600x although maybe some good bargains soon when others sell for AM5. Although if it was me I would get the 5700x take those extra cores, sell the 5600x and wait for Zen 5, may only cost you between £100 and £150
 
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Not worth it at all save your money and wait for the 8600x3d or something similar from intel and by that time ddr5 and motherboards will be cheap. Competition will be fierce between Intel and AMD for the next few years.
 
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I wouldn’t bother unless your 5600 isn’t up the the task which is highly unlikely for 1440p gaming.

If you need to upgrade look at the new Ryzen chips. The 5800x3d doesn’t make much sense these days given how good next gen ryzen is alleged to be.
 
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SpudMaster said:
Games dont 'need' 8 cores, they need a fast cpu which you have :)
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Exactly, and the 6 cores in your 5600 are way faster than the 8 in the current gen consoles which is where this myth keeps coming from.

They are clocked faster and have better IPC, that makes the single threaded performance which is key for gaming significantly better.
 
What people never mention when they say "oh you're GPU bound at 4K" is that all of it is irrelevant UNLESS you want to play at low fps. Meaning, yes you can turn RT on & play at 4K and bam, GPU limited - at 20 fps, so in that scenario all CPUs look the same. But why would that matter unless you want to play at 20 fps (or 30 or whatever)? No, the important thing is to think about your framerate target (usually 60 fps for most people) and then look at if your CPU can do that in the games you care about with the settings you want. If it can't, then upgrade. If it can, then don't.

Ultimately people aren't actually gaming at 4K anymore anyway, not unless it's an easy to run game where fps is already plentiful. Usually it's DLSS/FSR, so results below 4K absolutely matter and it's not just being GPU bound all the time.

Certainly in terms of value it's unlikely anything will match, for years to come, you selling the 5600X and just grabbing a 5800X3D.
 
Not worth it especially at 4k you wouldn't see any difference. Be better to put the money towards a better gfx card.

Also given the prices of AM5 chips, the 5800x3d is likely to stay high in price rather than come down. If you go on partpicker price history charts you can see retailers have increased prices of the 5800x3d in the last few weeks
 
There's no point unless you game at 1080p or can make use of the extra cores in workloads. Save your money. All this "you need 8 cores" things is twaddle. At 1440p and especially 4K the majority of your cash should go on GPU.

Keep the 5600x.
 
I was thinking if there is a point to change the 5600x but currently (even tho the 3D is little faster) a new GPU will vastly overcome the diff. between them 2 CPU's
 
Amazing responses here so i thank you for that. Im going to go with the majority here and not bother. I am looking forward to seeing AMDs new gpu offerings come November 3rd, I hope they arent too much in line with Nvidias prices although sadly i cant see it being any better. Im also going to give it a while before going AM5 so the boards become a bit cheaper and DDR5 continues to tumble price wise. Be interesting watching reviews of the new zen4 cpus so I will give it some careful thought. :)
 
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Amazing responses here so i thank you for that. Im going to go with the majority here and not bother. I am looking forward to seeing AMDs new gpu offerings come November 3rd, I hope they arent too much in line with Nvidias prices although sadly i cant see it being any better. Im also going to give it a while before going AM5 so the boards become a bit cheaper and DDR5 continues to tumble price wise. Be interesting watching reviews of the new zen4 cpus so I will give it some careful thought. :)
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Raptor Lake news just dropped. 13600K? You can re-use DDR4 and just sell 5600X and motherboard for the Intel chip. Thats coming soon (13600K).
 
I went from a 5600x to a 5800x due to thermal issues with the 5600x, however I will add I do game at high refresh, the games that I want high FPS in are easy to get really high FPS in, the games I don't care that much about high FPS in actually run worse but are all above 60 FPS.

So it's a non issue anyway...

5800X3D is a much better chip than mine in gaming but would I care about 312FPS vs my own 220 FPS when I have filled out both 165 and 170hz?

Far Cry 6 is the only game engine that runs like backside due to Ubisoft being dunces and not using more than 2 cores.
5800x3D shows big gains over the 5800x chip but it's single player so again, I don't ultimately care.
 
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b0rn2sk8 said:
Exactly, and the 6 cores in your 5600 are way faster than the 8 in the current gen consoles which is where this myth keeps coming from.

They are clocked faster and have better IPC, that makes the single threaded performance which is key for gaming significantly better.
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Locked my chip in at 4.8ghz all core, thing is overkill for 99% of what I do, I do however do video encoding. But even that is not all that important with the advent of NVENC, I will still use the CPU though when quality is still not ioptimal with NVENC, happens at times.

The 5800x also stays in low 20's usage when streaming 1440P 60 FPS video which is insane.
 
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I did that very same jump - from a 5600X to a 5800X3D.

Am i happy? Very. I`ll likely skip AM5 , so wanted the very best AM4 platform (CL14 3200 ram and the 5800X3D) along with 2 nvme drives
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I's the lows which i find a lot improved on, in the games i play, frame rates are both higher and more stable with not so deep drops (thas to the bucket of cache).
 
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