5700X overheating

jrodga2k5 · 26 Apr 2022 at 12:03

MyBrainz said:
Thanks, i'll look into it sometime, just loving the 4750Mhz single core clocks i'm getting right now as some things i do with this PC are single core heavy..

Cheers buddy

I'd have probably left it at stock as I was hitting 4650mhz single core clocks easily but PUBG stresses out CPU's to a horrendous degree so had to do something :cry:

If you're happy with your performance the best course of action as always is to...do nothing

MyBrainz · 26 Apr 2022 at 12:25

jrodga2k5 said:
I'd have probably left it at stock as I was hitting 4650mhz single core clocks easily but PUBG stresses out CPU's to a horrendous degree so had to do something

If you're happy with your performance the best course of action as always is to...do nothing

I'll be honest, AMD's Curve Optimiser has surprised me, i was expecting it to crash by now.. PC has been on for over 25 hours running different apps and games, left idle overnight, running great so far.

I cant run CTR though to check if its a Golden Sample, it says my chip isnt supported lol

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 26 Apr 2022 at 12:27

I tried my Ryzen 7 5700X which is under a low profile Noctua L12S CPU cooler and the highest I saw was around 71C with Blend and this is in a NCase M1 mini-ITX case too.

Will try Smallest FFTs and see what I get.

Edit!!

It doesn't run too hot either but I have mine configured to the 65W TDP and its at stock.

I suspect the motherboard the OP is using is probably breaking the official 65W TDP specification so is running closer to a Ryzen 7 5800X in terms of package power and TDP.

The Ryzen 7 5700X shouldn't run too hot as its base clockspeeds,etc are probably closer to the ideal voltage/power curve for Zen3.

humbug · 26 Apr 2022 at 13:08

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I tried my Ryzen 7 5700X which is under a low profile Noctua L12S CPU cooler and the highest I saw was around 71C with Blend and this is in a NCase M1 mini-ITX case too.

Will try Smallest FFTs and see what I get.

Edit!!

It doesn't run too hot either but I have mine configured to the 65W TDP and its at stock.

I suspect the motherboard the OP is using is probably breaking the official 65W TDP specification so is running closer to a Ryzen 7 5800X in terms of package power and TDP.

The Ryzen 7 5700X shouldn't run too hot as its base clockspeeds,etc are probably closer to the ideal voltage/power curve for Zen3.

That's exactly what its doing

But if he does not mind the temperatures he's got something that's maybe not quite a 5800X but between that and the 5700X its supposed to be.
Temperatures of up to 90c is not at all unusual as 5800X owners know too well, its really not something to worry about.

This is very close, if this was a 5800X and he was asking if these scores are normal i would say yes, if slightly on the low side, maybe 150 points short.

jrodga2k5 said:
So I've picked one up now for my SFF build as the 5900 just couldn't stretch it's legs properly and let off so much heat it was unreal in the Q58.

Tonight I've been messing about and clocked the 5700X @ 1.2V, All Core 4.6Ghz.

R20: 6026
R23: 15385

Temperature wise full load I'm maxing out at around 72C but this case is a bit of a hot box despite a 240 AIO (seem that the top panel just heats up to some crazy level which doesn't help). In game however it is reaching nowhere near that and usually between the high 50's/low 60's. I'll monitor it over the next few days but its seems absolutely solid right now.

g67575 · 26 Apr 2022 at 13:23

AMD sets a thermal limit of 90 Celsius for a reason. Running it 10 degrees cooler when under full load is a much better idea, and the performance will be only around 1% lower.

Nobody knows what the effects of heating them up to 90 degrees will be long term, but there's just no good reason to do it.

In terms of how well the 5700X performs at stock compared to the 5800X, it's virtually identical in games, according to this review:
https://hothardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-7-5700x-and-ryzen-5-4500-5500-5600-benchmarks?page=4

humbug · 26 Apr 2022 at 13:48

g67575 said:
AMD sets a thermal limit of 90 Celsius for a reason. Running it 10 degrees cooler when under full load is a much better idea, and the performance will be only around 1% lower.

Nobody knows what the effects of heating them up to 90 degrees will be long term, but there's just no good reason to do it.

You're thinking of it in Intel terms.

The CPU is designed to run at 90c during high loads, Zen 3 does not have fixed clocks, it has a boost cap of 4.85Ghz which can be increased to 5.05Ghz or 5.35Ghz if you have the right BIOS.

The CPU will look for opportunity to boost as high as its set cap, its monitoring Volts, Amps and temps both for the motherboard VRMs at over 60 sensor points on the CCD, depending on the load if there is room for more Amps, Volts and Temps it will increase them to increase the Mhz, and it will read those perimeters every 1 Millisecond, or 1000 time a second and make necessary adjustments to those perimeters and clocks for the most optimal levels for the highest clocks during that 1 Millisecond, and then again at the next, its not that 90c is the thermal limit, 90c is the temperature it can run at constantly and safely.

Its not just the 5800X that's like this, they all are, you run any Zen 3 chip under AMD's own coolers and they will all boost until they run this hot and they will do it for many many years, the actual thermal cap is unknown but its probably no different to Intel, IE over 100c, there is no need for that "thermal cap" as it will never get there.

aachil · 26 Apr 2022 at 18:43

can someone give me an idea of how to overclock the 5700x or good values to use in the bios or through ryzen master etc..
i just purchased a noctua nh-u12a cpu cooler
so im hoping to do some overclocking.
and i have no idea about ppt or edc or the other things so im really new to this
much appreciated thanks guys

pastymuncher · 26 Apr 2022 at 19:18

I know I am late to the party and a dirty Intel user but does the OP have the latest bios for his board and the 5700x? Maybe the bios isn't optimised for it if it's a older release?

MyBrainz · 26 Apr 2022 at 19:59

aachil said:
can someone give me an idea of how to overclock the 5700x or good values to use in the bios or through ryzen master etc..
i just purchased a noctua nh-u12a cpu cooler
so im hoping to do some overclocking.
and i have no idea about ppt or edc or the other things so im really new to this
much appreciated thanks guys

Download Ryzen Master and use the Curve Optimiser, it did it all for me and i now get 4750Mhz on some cores, see if it works for you.

Just make sure to set Auto in BIOS for the usual options we change in there.

humbug · 26 Apr 2022 at 21:09

pastymuncher said:
I know I am late to the party and a dirty Intel user but does the OP have the latest bios for his board and the 5700x? Maybe the bios isn't optimised for it if it's a older release?

That's a good question...

Now go back to your blue corner, your kind is not welcome here

kevbiss1 · 28 Apr 2022 at 19:24

Download Ryzen master, curve optimizor and test

brakeinup · 4 May 2022 at 21:41

New 5700X today replacing a 3600XT on a Gigabyte Aorus Elite x570 (latest BIOS). Cooled by an Arctic 280mm AIO in a Fractal case. MX4 thermal paste.

With everything on Auto my R23 multi score was 12678 and the cores maxed out at 3.81Ghz. By setting PBO to Enabled all cores frequency increases to 4.4 and up and the multi score is 15042 @ 72 degrees.

aachil · 5 May 2022 at 10:40

thats good brain thanks for adding the info.
at the moment i have tweaked my 5700x nicely in the bios im quite happy..

my r23 multi score is 15386 running at 4.5ishghz my max temp is also between 71-74c
and if im running prime 95 it dont go any higher then around 75c

unfortunatly i cant ever seem to get 4.6ghz or more no matter what im trying
and if i set the cpu ratio to 4.6ghz in bios with 1.260v my pc dont boot so its very wierd

brain with your pc just running in idle mode what are your cpu clockspeeds reading?
mine jump from 3.5ghz to around 3.9

MyBrainz · 5 May 2022 at 12:56

Windows Balanced Power Plan (with Windows Power Mode slider in the middle) idle clocks = 3600Mhz - 4750Mhz, mostly @3600Mhz though (temps = 30c - 35c)

Windows Power Save Power Plan idle clocks = 1720Mhz (temps = 27c - 30c)

My own Custom Windows Power Save Power Plan idle clocks = 3300Mhz (temps = 28c - 30c) For this i created a new Power Save Plan and set Minimum Processor State to 99%

I use my own Custom Plan for everything else when i am not doing gaming or any intensive workloads, uses around 25w - 30w of power too

humbug · 5 May 2022 at 13:09

aachil said:
thats good brain thanks for adding the info.
at the moment i have tweaked my 5700x nicely in the bios im quite happy..

my r23 multi score is 15386 running at 4.5ishghz my max temp is also between 71-74c
and if im running prime 95 it dont go any higher then around 75c

unfortunatly i cant ever seem to get 4.6ghz or more no matter what im trying
and if i set the cpu ratio to 4.6ghz in bios with 1.260v my pc dont boot so its very wierd

brain with your pc just running in idle mode what are your cpu clockspeeds reading?
mine jump from 3.5ghz to around 3.9

15386 is 5800X territory.

1.260v is too low for 4.6Ghz.

You've done quite well but if you want more Mhz you need to put more volts in.

MyBrainz · 5 May 2022 at 13:23

humbug said:
15386 is 5800X territory.

1.260v is too low for 4.6Ghz.

You've done quite well but if you want more Mhz you need to put more volts in.

Best i got in R23 was with PBO Enabled and scored 14616 (Multi) and 1520 (Single) but i prefer the higher clocks hitting 4750Mhz using the Curve Optimiser, with Multi score down a touch at 14484 but Single score is up to 1535.

aachil · 5 May 2022 at 13:55

MyBrainz said:
Best i got in R23 was with PBO Enabled and scored 14616 (Multi) and 1520 (Single) but i prefer the higher clocks hitting 4750Mhz using the Curve Optimiser, with Multi score down a touch at 14484 but Single score is up to 1535.

the minute i try to put manual cpu ratio above 4.4ghz and vcore anything over 1.2 my pc is not stable especially if i run prime temps are fine but my pc crashes.
very strange.
but if i do my normal bios tinkering i get the scores i said above over 15k r23

aachil · 5 May 2022 at 14:09

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this my my latest multi r23 score as i said above using bios tinkering

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and my single core score

aachil · 6 May 2022 at 09:34

score

ive done another multi core run on r23 today and its given me an even higher result. very strange

locrieth · 12 May 2022 at 16:46

Hey All,

Sorry to Bump this necro thread, but I think my EVGA CLC 280 might be on its way out as I'm having loads of USB disconnect and reconnecting happening in windows. I tried reconnecting it to a different USB header and straight to a USB port same thing happens and my temps jumped up to 106c when it was literally idling at 5% CPU. There's a 5 year warranty on the AIO so I'm trying to see about RMA, in the interim as a temporary work around, do you think the Wraith Spire cooler from a 3600X would be sufficient with no overclocks and if I turn off PBO? I'm working on the thinking that the 5700X is a 65W CPU and the 3600X is a 95W CPU...

Any thoughts?