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5700XT clock speeds question

Rabid Dog

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Hi all , Its been many years since I looked at these pages and more years since I last upgraded my pc , I recently went team red with a 3600 and XFX 5700 XT ultra THICC 3 .
just wondering what you are getting stock with your 5700xt's? mine are 1750mhz mem and upto around 2080mhz core , blurb says its upto 2025 core but im getting high temps too . any advise on whats the best oc software to use . I've been out of it for far too long to know where to look these days .:(
 
I don't have any experience of the 5700 XT so can't speak there, but as for overclocking, AMD's own solution inside its driver software is all you really need. Just open up the Radeon software (make sure you have the latest driver too), go to the Performance tab and then click on Tuning. If you then click on Manual it'll take you to all the settings you require (there's also an auto-overclocking function, but I've never used it). You can set a global overclock, but what I really like about it over something like MSI Afterburner is the ability to save profiles for individual games that automatically apply when you launch them. So if you want to undervolt/underclock to save power in a less demanding title or go balls to the wall in a really demanding one, you can have it all set up to happen without any input necessary. It's a fantastic feature IMO. You can also save overclocking profiles and just load them into a new game profile when you want to set one up, rather than inputting everything manually again, by clicking the three dots towards the top right.
 
Start off with an auto under volt within the radeon software, this should reduce temps. Out of interest, what temps are you getting?
 
Thanks for the reply's. Ok , so I have tried to undervolt but it crashes halfway through timespy benchtest. using the AMD software . not played with anything more than fan speed atm but that goes back to default evertime I shut the system down, is that normal?

Temps so far with a closed case (and heaven benchmark on a loop) are gpu current around 80c and junction going up to around 105c max , that's with the fans on auto maxing out at 42% if I increase the fan speed to max out at 75% the temps come down to GCT80 GJT85 without it being too loud. that's with the card pulling 231W max clock shows 2060 gpu and 1750 mem. idle temps around 48c
 
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GPU in signature.

GPU: 1950 - 2050
Mem: 1750

All i have done is turn the volts down from 1200mv to 1135mv and put the power target up to +5%. that's it. it gained me a few % and the card runs slightly cooler.

Also turned 0 fan mode off, why have the GPU sitting at 60c with the fan off when with it on the RPM is so low you can't hear it anyway and the card sits in the 40's?

I don't see the point in pushing the card for all its worth, i gain a few % just tweaking the volts and i get a cooler running card, actually trying to overclock it will not gain me much if anything more.

Temps:
72c Current, 95c Junction.
80c Mem
75c VRMs

The settings have held in the software from yesterday when i booted the PC this morning, only had the card a few days.


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Those are already very high core clocks for a 5700 XT, I wouldn't bother too much with anything other than adjusting the fan curve. But don't use heaven to benchmark anything, it's sadly very popular but very misleading for OC. Get a real game and give it a workout, Control is gonna bring it to its knees but has no built-in benchmark. Shadow of the Tomb Raider is great & has a free demo with benchmark on Steam (use DX12). Gears 5 benchmark if you have gamepass works well too. BF V multiplayer if you have origin pass, that's also a fantastic system stresser - if you ever want to see if clocks hold, try that. And lastly, RDR 2, go through Saint Denis at night and watch the GPU cry (max shadows & lighting). That's the only way to really validate an OC.
 
ok guys here we go , downloaded tomb raider (not shadow of) and ran it at 4k ultra settings after setting the gfx up as the same as humbug had done his, not even 5mins into the game and it crashed . so I put the voltage back up and ran it again , this time no problems other than it was constantly going over 105c GJT (case closed) with an average fps of 62ish. So I tried to underclock it a little to what the card supposedly max's out at 2025mhz and then undervolted it too , now I have a slightly less powerful 195w max with a cooler 97c at 65% fan speed , I'm haapier now it doesn't go over 100c even with the case closed up , it ran much much cooler with the side off never going over about 85c ish. I am going to try to lower the v a little more , I will report back with my findings.
Thanks for your help :D
 
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I just cranked it up to max and left it there rofl. Seems that if I reduce the voltage it starts crashing so thought balls to it. I game with headphones on anyway so can't hear the fans!

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pugheaven said:
I just cranked it up to max and left it there rofl. Seems that if I reduce the voltage it starts crashing so thought balls to it. I game with headphones on anyway so can't hear the fans!
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What temps? I game with headphones too but the wife says it sounds like its going to take off!!
 
Rabid Dog said:
What temps? I game with headphones too but the wife says it sounds like its going to take off!!
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Just ran it now for 5 minutes, temps were GPU core:75C and Junction/Hot Spot: 98C. As long as my junction temps are below 100, then I'm happy, they can take 110C, but why bother. Also, sorry that voltage should be 1150mv, if I run 1200mv the core goes to 79C and the junction to 106C which isn't necessary as my card seems to top out.

So, for me, I have constant 2000mhz or above boost in games at 2075mhz/1900mhz (for whatever reason, when setting to 2075, you can get an actual clock of anything from 2000 - 2035mhz I find) with 1175mv and fans on maxumum from 80C ish GPU temp. All depends on how much noise you want, tbh mate if you want minimum noise, just run your voltage around 1125mv, set you boost to 1950/1900 and see what happens and leave the fan on auto... not sure what that would give you noise wise and you'd get good clocks on that I mean, we're picking hairs here, if you can get 1900 in games or benching on the core at 1100mv or less, then that is a major result. All depends what you want.

I might actually decrease my fans a little and see how it affects the temps now... migth not make that much difference, who knows.
 
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what did you run? just tried mine set to 2000mhz and 1125mv , with time spy run temps not above 90c and only lost 100 marks card maxed out at 1980mhz .that was with fan speed set to max of 42%
 
Rabid Dog said:
ok guys here we go , downloaded tomb raider (not shadow of) and ran it at 4k ultra settings after setting the gfx up as the same as humbug had done his, not even 5mins into the game and it crashed . so I put the voltage back up and ran it again , this time no problems other than it was constantly going over 105c GJT (case closed) with an average fps of 62ish. So I tried to underclock it a little to what the card supposedly max's out at 2025mhz and then undervolted it too , now I have a slightly less powerful 195w max with a cooler 97c at 65% fan speed , I'm haapier now it doesn't go over 100c even with the case closed up , it ran much much cooler with the side off never going over about 85c ish. I am going to try to lower the v a little more , I will report back with my findings.
Thanks for your help :D
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Get the SotTR demo. With DX12 you'll have games utilise the GPU much better & will be forward looking. If you don't do that you risk exposing fewer potential instability issues but which will end up crashing your games later on. You might also want to aim for <2000mhz. There's a disproportionate relation between clocks & power usage (= temps) the higher up you go.

The way you should do it is:
1) Find acceptable fan speed %.
2) Find out the cooling capacity of the card at said fan speeds, by which I mean what's the power usage of the card that can be cooled by said fan speed. (and can be cooled means whatever your temperature target is, up to its reference max - which is 110 C for tjunction; ofc you may want to target cooler etc up to you)
3) Now you can tweak clocks & voltages to see what your card's sweetspot is in terms of that. i.e. what clock & voltage combination for said power target achieves the greatest performance.

Sadly there's only one way to do it: trial and error. Good way to catch up on podcasts tho ;)
 
Rabid Dog said:
what did you run? just tried mine set to 2000mhz and 1125mv , with time spy run temps not above 90c and only lost 100 marks card maxed out at 1980mhz .that was with fan speed set to max of 42%
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OCCT Power option which is the only way I truly see the whole system maxed, if it works here for say 5 minutes it'll work anywhere. Another one which maxes my GPU mhz boost is Superposition BenchMark 1080p Extreme, that gives 100% load on GPU! Using those two and also final 3DMark Stress Testing gives me a reliable system.

However, based on your comments, I'm going to run and run a couple of benchmarks and actually see what thwe difference is default and with the overclock. Will post in about an hour as got nowt else to do hahaha
 
Right ok, I ran the following benchmarks twice just to see a little more in real terms what clocking of these cards gives, took the average and here is what we got:

Default 5700XT Clocks (1755mhz-gpu/1750mhz-mem, boost 1905mhz)
Superposition Benchmark 1080p Extreme: Score:4,736, Min:28.41fps, Avg:35.43fps, Max:42.20fps
3DMark TimeSpy Default: Score:7,039, Graphics Score:8,383, Test1:57.17fps, Test2:46.01fps
3DMark Fire Strike Extreme: Score:10,300, Graphics Score:12,068, Test1:60.36fps, Test2:46.41fps

Overclcoked 5700XT Clocks (2079mhz-gpu/1900mhz-mem, boost 2079mhz, 1176mv-voltage)
Superposition Benchmark 1080p Extreme: Score:5,246 Min:31.39fps, Avg:39.24fps, Max:46.72fps
3DMark TimeSpy Default: Score:7,647, Graphics Score:9,467, Test1:65.39fps, Test2:51.71fps
3DMark Fire Strike Extreme: Score:, Graphics Score:13,502, Test1:67.75fps, Test2:51.79fps

So, based on that lot we get the following % increase in fps based on those overclocks:

Superposition Benchmark: Avg fps = 9.7% Increase
3DMark TimeSpy Default: Test1 fps = 12.6% Increase, Test2 fps = 11.0% Increase
3DMark Fire Strike Extreme: Test1 fps = 10.9% Increase, Test2 fps = 10.4% Increase

So, basically, looking at this, going from stock to overclocked can give you circa 10-12% better fps. I assume it'll go for games as well. However, that sounds great, but lets be honest, let put that into real figures. OK, you're running 60fps at default, that means around 66-67.2fps at overclocked speeds... is that worth the hassle? I don't know, suppose it's what we all do to try and push our gear to get the most out of it, but all the hassle, more power, clocking, stability testing and everything all for that? hahahaha...
 
I've been playing with the settings on mine for a couple of days now and have come to the conclusion its best left set to auto o/c at default , default mem and GPU are 1750 - 1935 2025 boost . If I leave it to auto oc with the Radion software I get 1900mhz mem and up to 2084Mhz core . with the fans set to factory 42% it gets a bit hot and max's out at GJT 109c. putting the fan speed up to 60% temps come down to 85c .that's with the side of the case off, with it on it creeps up to about 97c, I may cut a new piece of acrylic for the side panel (original is glass) and put a fan or a vent in it for the gfx card to breath. So I think I'll leave it to do its own thing from now on . thank you all for your help.
RD
pugheaven said:
Right ok, I ran the following benchmarks twice just to see a little more in real terms what clocking of these cards gives, took the average and here is what we got:

Default 5700XT Clocks (1755mhz-gpu/1750mhz-mem, boost 1905mhz)
Superposition Benchmark 1080p Extreme: Score:4,736, Min:28.41fps, Avg:35.43fps, Max:42.20fps
3DMark TimeSpy Default: Score:7,039, Graphics Score:8,383, Test1:57.17fps, Test2:46.01fps
3DMark Fire Strike Extreme: Score:10,300, Graphics Score:12,068, Test1:60.36fps, Test2:46.41fps

Overclcoked 5700XT Clocks (2079mhz-gpu/1900mhz-mem, boost 2079mhz, 1176mv-voltage)
Superposition Benchmark 1080p Extreme: Score:5,246 Min:31.39fps, Avg:39.24fps, Max:46.72fps
3DMark TimeSpy Default: Score:7,647, Graphics Score:9,467, Test1:65.39fps, Test2:51.71fps
3DMark Fire Strike Extreme: Score:, Graphics Score:13,502, Test1:67.75fps, Test2:51.79fps

So, based on that lot we get the following % increase in fps based on those overclocks:

Superposition Benchmark: Avg fps = 9.7% Increase
3DMark TimeSpy Default: Test1 fps = 12.6% Increase, Test2 fps = 11.0% Increase
3DMark Fire Strike Extreme: Test1 fps = 10.9% Increase, Test2 fps = 10.4% Increase

So, basically, looking at this, going from stock to overclocked can give you circa 10-12% better fps. I assume it'll go for games as well. However, that sounds great, but lets be honest, let put that into real figures. OK, you're running 60fps at default, that means around 66-67.2fps at overclocked speeds... is that worth the hassle? I don't know, suppose it's what we all do to try and push our gear to get the most out of it, but all the hassle, more power, clocking, stability testing and everything all for that? hahahaha...
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Love the lengths you went to on that , much appreciated:cool:
 
Rabid Dog said:
I've been playing with the settings on mine for a couple of days now and have come to the conclusion its best left set to auto o/c at default , default mem and GPU are 1750 - 1935 2025 boost . If I leave it to auto oc with the Radion software I get 1900mhz mem and up to 2084Mhz core . with the fans set to factory 42% it gets a bit hot and max's out at GJT 109c. putting the fan speed up to 60% temps come down to 85c .that's with the side of the case off, with it on it creeps up to about 97c, I may cut a new piece of acrylic for the side panel (original is glass) and put a fan or a vent in it for the gfx card to breath. So I think I'll leave it to do its own thing from now on . thank you all for your help.
RD


Love the lengths you went to on that , much appreciated:cool:
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No worries, tbh I was interested to see what difference it actually makes, we spend that much time overclocking and messing, we forget sometimes to play the games hahaha... was interested to actually see what it meant in fps so thanks for prompting me into thinking about it more hahaha. Plus, I do love a stat ;-)
 
Rabid Dog said:
I've been playing with the settings on mine for a couple of days now and have come to the conclusion its best left set to auto o/c at default , default mem and GPU are 1750 - 1935 2025 boost . If I leave it to auto oc with the Radion software I get 1900mhz mem and up to 2084Mhz core . with the fans set to factory 42% it gets a bit hot and max's out at GJT 109c. putting the fan speed up to 60% temps come down to 85c .that's with the side of the case off, with it on it creeps up to about 97c, I may cut a new piece of acrylic for the side panel (original is glass) and put a fan or a vent in it for the gfx card to breath. So I think I'll leave it to do its own thing from now on . thank you all for your help.
RD


Love the lengths you went to on that , much appreciated:cool:
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By reducing the volts to 1075mv and clocks to 1951Mhz i got this...

Temps:

GPU 67c/86c
Men 73c
VRM 70c

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